ski MRG Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wow. What a torch. Just sweltering here in the mid 30's w/ rain. Days and days of 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Tip and Sammy on their road trip > Dude. Yes. The ultimate dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Monday and possibly Tuesday might suck for some..esp on the coast. Even in the interior..no big insane 80F temps. CAR Maine may be warmer than DC is the GFS if the GFS is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Monday and possibly Tuesday might suck for some..esp on the coast. Even in the interior..no big insane 80F temps. CAR Maine may be warmer than DC is the GFS if the GFS is right. Why conservative is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Why conservative is the way to go. Nonsense. I would take your numbers and add 5F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Nonsense. I would take your numbers and add 5F. lol I still don't understand some of the numbers some people (media types, weenies, nws in some cases) are putting out. So unbelievably bullish when many of the signs besides warm 850s just aren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 lol I still don't understand some of the numbers some people (media types, weenies, nws in some cases) are putting out. So unbelievably bullish when many of the signs besides warm 850s just aren't there. NWS very, very bullish. 79F for a day 6 forecast in mid/late March? Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 71. Calm wind becoming southwest between 5 and 8 mph. Sunday Night: Patchy fog between 3am and 4am, then Patchy fog after 5am. Otherwise, mostly clear, with a low around 44. Monday: Patchy fog before 8am. Otherwise, mostly sunny, with a high near 71. Monday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 47. Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 75. Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 52. Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 77. Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 50. Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 79. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 NWS very, very bullish. 79F for a day 6 forecast in mid/late March? Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 71. Calm wind becoming southwest between 5 and 8 mph. Sunday Night: Patchy fog between 3am and 4am, then Patchy fog after 5am. Otherwise, mostly clear, with a low around 44. Monday: Patchy fog before 8am. Otherwise, mostly sunny, with a high near 71. Monday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 47. Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 75. Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 52. Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 77. Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 50. Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 79. Well the zone forecasts are less bullish. I hate those point and clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 lol I still don't understand some of the numbers some people (media types, weenies, nws in some cases) are putting out. So unbelievably bullish when many of the signs besides warm 850s just aren't there. 90's. 3-day heat wave likely. Meanwhile it's 34.3F with low clouds and rain in Plymouth right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Well the zone forecasts are less bullish. I hate those point and clicks. True, I don't understand the layout of the NWS, because I used to only know about point and clicks, but its what the public sees if they are not going to weather.com, so I think more care should probably put into them. Even TWC isn't as warm as the P+C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Getting back to that upper level low screwing things up next week...if that approaches like the models have...you'll have a component a little too southerly which mutes the warmth. Still very warm, but it may mean the difference between 74 and 80. NNE FTW. Might have to wait until Thursday or Friday for better warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Well the zone forecasts are less bullish. I hate those point and clicks. I'm under the impression they spend their time working on the point and clicks and not zones these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 True, I don't understand the layout of the NWS, because I used to only know about point and clicks, but its what the public sees if they are not going to weather.com, so I think more care should probably put into them. Even TWC isn't as warm as the P+C. I mean it is possible, but there are other factors that need to come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I would say more than a one day break....Its been miserable here since mid afternoon on Wednesday, the temperature briefly spiked yesterday afternoon into the mid 40s, but it was very short lived - the majority of the day was cold and raw in the 30s. I hope tomorrow turns out nice, but I am not as optimistic....think it turns out only slightly nicer than today. 38F here True...people aren't getting the message that its colder or don't care, you would think it was going to be 65F in sunny but what people are wearing ...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I mean it is possible, but there are other factors that need to come together. I understand, i just don't know why the P+C isn't worked on more when that's what most people who go to NWS use for temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'm under the impression they spend their time working on the point and clicks and not zones these days Unless I bounce up when winds turn NW a bit, I don't think I'm making low 50s today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Unless I bounce up when winds turn NW a bit, I don't think I'm making low 50s today. nah...should be 70s. Days and days. Again...amout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2 of the back to back colder feeling days of this pathetic winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I understand, i just don't know why the P+C isn't worked on more when that's what most people who go to NWS use for temps. Actually I think that's where most of the effort goes. I believe they were once considering canning the zfp's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 nah...should be 70s. Days and days. Again...amout. Wow at the GFS op. I pray...oh do I pray for those who have bets on no snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I understand, i just don't know why the P+C isn't worked on more when that's what most people who go to NWS use for temps. P&C is based on a gridded forecast. NWS forecasts for specific points and the software generally does the rest so someone looking for a forecast at a specific point can get one. The ZFP is a legacy product that is generated from the gridded forecast that drives the P&C. The P&C and ZFP are derived from the same forecast, just different formats. Once in a while you see something nonsensical in the zones since they aren't human generated, so the NWS can go in and tweak them if they want. As I understand it they don't spend any time on zones per se, but rather the forecast itself instead of the formatting of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 As predicted yesterday... the day's mirk and chill is completely biasing the tempo of the posting toward sarcasm and disrespect to the fact that we are embedded in an overall warm regime ...one that will prove as such over the next 5 days. Don't rush things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wow at the GFS op. I pray...oh do I pray for those who have bets on no snow. Kevin is sunbathing in the nude I'm sure... moments away from hypothermia. Days and days of 70s and 80s FTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wow at the GFS op. I pray...oh do I pray for those who have bets on no snow. AMOUT next weekend it cools off and the week of 3/25 there's at least a chance for snow...again AWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Balmy 42F out there right now with a side of clouds/rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 P&C is based on a gridded forecast. NWS forecasts for specific points and the software generally does the rest so someone looking for a forecast at a specific point can get one. The ZFP is a legacy product that is generated from the gridded forecast that drives the P&C. The P&C and ZFP are derived from the same forecast, just different formats. Once in a while you see something nonsensical in the zones since they aren't human generated, so the NWS can go in and tweak them if they want. As I understand it they don't spend any time on zones per se, but rather the forecast itself instead of the formatting of it. Makes sense. I didn't understand that before. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Kevin is sunbathing in the nude I'm sure... moments away from hypothermia. Days and days of 70s and 80s FTL. Meanwhile..stations like ORH and CEF are reporting "unknown precip"..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wow up to 40F here now...time to go lay out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 John, when do you want to go storm chasing with frisbees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Kevin is sunbathing in the nude I'm sure... moments away from hypothermia. Days and days of 70s and 80s FTL. I know we are sort of joking around, but never ever ever underestimate the BDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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