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Just a dusting IMBY, so still 2" under last year's total.

The banter on under 500' snow totals reminds me of a similar "Is it real?" discussion about LES a few years back. Snow is snow, but snowpack is important too. The only Maine palces I'd rank near J.Spin forunder-500 snowfall would be along the St. John downstream of Ft. Kent (which is just above 500' thus out of play. My 5 full winters there at about 515' averaged 125", the 4 at about 990' in the back settlement 144". But snow depth is where such places stand out. My top for the flats was 54" in 3/77, higher up it reached 65" in 3/84 (and 2007-08 almost certainly topped both of those, easily.) I'm not sure if anyplace else under 1,000' (at least, east of Keweenaw) can top N.Maine for deep snow (forget this year and last!) over long periods - snow depth days.

Right, Vim?

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I'm not sure if anyplace else under 1,000' (at least, east of Keweenaw) can top N.Maine for deep snow (forget this year and last!) over long periods - snow depth days.

Right, Vim?

You bet, Amtrack!

Have a look at the first week of April '08. The boat inset in the picture is my old 25' Albin trawler on it's trailer.

That boat was about 12' high. You can make out it's bow rail peeking out from the drift just above the inset.

I drove my sled over my boat that year. Sold it that summer and have a 32' Carver we keep in Chester, CT now.

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Yessirree, our annual snowfall is around 130". Not crazy high but, we keep it all winter.

Mostly.

Vim Toot!

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You bet, Amtrack!

Have a look at the first week of April '08. The boat inset in the picture is my old 25' Albin trawler on it's trailer.

That boat was about 12' high. You can make out it's bow rail peeking out from the drift just above the inset.

I drove my sled over my boat that year. Sold it that summer and have a 32' Carver we keep in Chester, CT now.

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Yessirree, our annual snowfall is around 130". Not crazy high but, we keep it all winter.

Mostly.

Vim Toot!

I had a 93 Carver Mariner 330 that i got rid of a couple years ago, Nice boat, Kept it in Naples Is yours 32 aft cabin or Montego?

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I had a 93 Carver Mariner 330 that i got rid of a couple years ago, Nice boat, Kept it in Naples Is yours 32 aft cabin or Montego?

Mine's a Mariner also. '90. It's 32' when I'm paying dockage. Add on the pulpit and platform and it's 35' loa.

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Don't tread on Mimi.

Queen berth in S/R up front. Replaced the settee w/this twin recliner in the salon. Beamy beamy boat.

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Our "launch". My kid Mimi named it.

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Naples lake/Songo Locks/Sebago lake would be nice cruising.

I always stop at Charlie's Landing for a 4lb baked stuffed lobstah when driving through Naples.

Vim Toot!

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Mine's a Mariner also. '90. It's 32' when I'm paying dockage. Add on the pulpit and platform and it's 35' loa.

Don't tread on Mimi.

Queen berth in S/R up front. Replaced the settee w/this twin recliner in the salon. Beamy beamy boat.

Our "launch". My kid Mimi named it.

Naples lake/Songo Locks/Sebago lake would be nice cruising.

I always stop at Charlie's Landing for a 4lb baked stuffed lobstah when driving through Naples.

Vim Toot!

Sweet boat! You got all the toys.

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Mine's a Mariner also. '90. It's 32' when I'm paying dockage. Add on the pulpit and platform and it's 35' loa.

41171_155073597843145_100000215188100_514986_1680906_n.jpg

Don't tread on Mimi.

Queen berth in S/R up front. Replaced the settee w/this twin recliner in the salon. Beamy beamy boat.

35725_138485072835331_100000215188100_399830_855491_n.jpg

Our "launch". My kid Mimi named it.

30137_132064943477344_100000215188100_361675_6650319_n.jpg

Naples lake/Songo Locks/Sebago lake would be nice cruising.

I always stop at Charlie's Landing for a 4lb baked stuffed lobstah when driving through Naples.

Vim Toot!

Yes, 32'8" i believe and 12'4" beam, Anchor pulpit made it 35'

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Had twin Crusader 350's for power

Mercruisers. 5.7 L (350 blocks)

I run 'em at 1800 rpm's. Gets me hull speed of 8.5 kts.

Once at "speed" I kill one and then get 6.5 kts for 1/2 the fuel gph. About 3 gph/ 2.0 mpg.

Easy on the gas, gears & ears. Being a tugboat guy I don't need speed.

Especially when 15 kts/ 3200 rpm's of speed consumes 2 gpm/ 30 gph!

g= gallons

h= hour

m= miles

Vim Toot

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Mercruisers. 5.7 L (350 blocks)

I run 'em at 1800 rpm's. Gets me hull speed of 8.5 kts.

Once at "speed" I kill one and then get 6.5 kts for 1/2 the fuel gph. About 3 gph/ 2.0 mpg.

Easy on the gas, gears & ears. Being a tugboat guy I don't need speed.

Especially when 15 kts/ 3200 rpm's of speed consumes 2 gpm/ 30 gph!

g= gallons

h= hour

m= miles

Vim Toot

Yup, Thats where i would run mine just a nice cruise up to Harrison or down thru the locks to Sebago, I had a go fast besides my carver, Had a Formula 312, With twin 502's pushing 830 hp, That one would consume some fuel, Don't take long running at 5100 rpm's and 75 mph on GPS to eat up $200.00

Still blustery here with temps down to 9F

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Event totals: 2.0” Snow/0.13” L.E.

Monday 2/21/2011 12:00 P.M. update: In the morning we picked up a final 0.4 inches from the recent system before the sky had mostly cleared out to produce a beautiful, albeit somewhat cold day. Between this weekend’s three snowfall events, 3.7 inches of snow fell here at the house in the form of 0.21 inches of liquid. After settling, it currently sits as roughly 2 to 3 inches atop the old snowpack.

With this morning’s accumulation being the last shot of snow for the next few days, we decided to head up to Bolton for a few turns, so I can provide some conditions data from the higher elevations there. Temperatures seemed a little cold and the new snow not quite deep enough for lift-served skiing, so we checked out the powder on the Nordic/backcountry network. We found 3 to 4 inches of settled powder in the lower village portion of the network at around 2,000’, and up at the Bryant Cabin (~2,700’) the depths were 4 to 5 inches. That area is generally quite sheltered, but we did find a few drifts with depths up to around 15 inches. We had mid to upper teens in the valley when we headed up to the mountain in the mid afternoon, but the temperature dropped off pretty quickly with elevation, and it was 6 F up at 2,000’. When we returned to the car around 5:30 P.M. as the sun was setting, the temperature at 2,000’ was 3 F and back down at the base of the access road at 230’ it was around 10 F. There was definitely enough snow for some fun turns; I added a couple of images from this afternoon below:

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I guess the next potential event is the one at the end of the week. Based on Roger Hill’s comments on SkiVT-L this morning, it still sounds like it’s up in the air in terms of what form of precipitation we might see. I’m planning to check in on the “Going Forward into March” thread to see what the latest thoughts are around here.

Some details from the 12:00 P.M. Waterbury observations are below:

New Snow: 0.4 inches

New Liquid: 0.01 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 40.0

Snow Density: 2.5% H2O

Temperature: 16.3 F

Sky: Mostly Clear

Snow at the stake: 21.0 inches

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Yup, Thats where i would run mine just a nice cruise up to Harrison or down thru the locks to Sebago, I had a go fast besides my carver, Had a Formula 312, With twin 502's pushing 830 hp, That one would consume some fuel, Don't take long running at 5100 rpm's and 75 mph on GPS to eat up $200.00

Still blustery here with temps down to 9F

What's that giant sucking sound?

This should make you feel better- My tugboat consumes 1500 gallons/day at 1500 rpm's.

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Dropped another tick to -10F by the time I left the house at 7am.

Man, Friday's a tough one right now. :huh:

We have 2 Camps, One snow/sleet/rain and one fringe/whiff, We need the one in between.......lol

Hopefully the ensembles are right and we get a solution in the middle somewhere to keep it all frozen

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Here are a couple pictures from yesterday afternoon.... view is from down in the village looking up at the mountain (about a quarter to a half mile from where I live).

I love these shots because they show the Green Mountain spine persistent snow effect... blue skies with not a cloud in the sky anywhere else, yet along the immediate (and I mean immediate) Spine a thin band of clouds continued to produce flurries and snow showers all afternoon. This is how you get high ratio light snowfalls of a dusting-2" over 24 hour periods... its certainly very light snow but very persistent so it does begin to add up over time.

The trails you see on the left side of the picture stick out to the east away from the immediate Spine, so they are out of the snow cloud, but the trails in the back are seeing flurries and light snow. The snows extend maybe only a quarter mile out on either side of the geographic spine.

Our High Road snow board at 3,000ft is located off the upper elevations of the trails you see dead center in the far back... obviously it is not snowing hard up there in this picture, but this image shows how that area gets so much seasonal snowfall because this is often how the upslope snow cloud sets up with the heaviest snow right along the geographic spine. Also, this is how the higher elevations pick up over 300" while the base is probably 175"... this cloud produced just stray flurries at the base, but it was a steady light snow (even at times moderate) high up on the ridge around 3-4K feet.

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Another view looking WNW (I'm ESE of the mountain)... showing how even under high pressure, a light NW upslope breeze will produce flurries and light snow over the Spine.

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Here's another shot from the Shaws Supermarket in town... this is looking at another cluster of mountains along the Green Mountain spine north of Mansfield (backside of Madonna, Sterling, Spruce Peak). Snow showers continued in that area all afternoon despite blue skies everywhere else. This looks like a passing snow shower, but this cloud did not move for like 4-5 hours yesterday afternoon. And they don't "move" like people think of showers, they just form and dissipate with wind and available moisture.

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I always find it amazing how topography can produce these low-topped clouds as the NW flow literally squeezes all available moisture out of the sky.

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