JamieOber Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Lows won't go below freezing in a lot of areas tonight. That's always tough on the old snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clouds Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It randomly has gotten cloudy in the past hour, so temperatures are holding steady at 43. Hopefully the sun breaks out soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Still have solid snow cover here in the south east part of York County. This snow is dense. Wouldn't mind a thaw so I can get to my buried firewood! Down here we have had solid snow cover for over a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Another view. It will all be gone by Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Going up... Wednesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 40. Wednesday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 29. Thursday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 50. Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 33. Friday: Partly sunny, with a high near 54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Still have solid snow cover here in the south east part of York County. This snow is dense. Wouldn't mind a thaw so I can get to my buried firewood! Down here we have had solid snow cover for over a month. The vast majority of my snowcover is gone here on Long Island (we had some wicked coastal front 45F torches 1-2 weeks ago), and what's left in my town will almost definitely be gone by the end of this week considering most of us should get above 50 multiple times by then. We're mostly reduced to the ugly black side of the road piles that are better taken out of their misery. Areas that are shaded most of the time still do have some good snowpack though. You guys are at least lucky you're not vulnerable to massive few hour or so long torches when southerly winds off the ocean dominate during a storm. The funny thing is, about 5" of my snow was eliminated on the day we had close to half an inch of freezing rain to start. The precip completely stopped, but a warm front briefly went north of us and spiked our temp up past 40 and with high humidity. NOTHING will destroy snow more efficiently than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Going up... Wednesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 40. Wednesday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 29. Thursday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 50. Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 33. Friday: Partly sunny, with a high near 54. Are you taking meteo at Hazleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The vast majority of my snowcover is gone here on Long Island (we had some wicked coastal front 45F torches 1-2 weeks ago), and what's left in my town will almost definitely be gone by the end of this week considering most of us should get above 50 multiple times by then. We're mostly reduced to the ugly black side of the road piles that are better taken out of their misery. Areas that are shaded most of the time still do have some good snowpack though. You guys are at least lucky you're not vulnerable to massive few hour or so long torches when southerly winds off the ocean dominate during a storm. The funny thing is, about 5" of my snow was eliminated on the day we had close to half an inch of freezing rain to start. The precip completely stopped, but a warm front briefly went north of us and spiked our temp up past 40 and with high humidity. NOTHING will destroy snow more efficiently than that. It's def going to be a process for the folks that still have decent snowpacks back here, esp in the more wooded areas. The ice storm from a couple weeks ago really made the stuff on the ground into concrete. I took the snowboard out on it last night in the backyard and couldn't even get an edge into it. It looks like the best days of this warm up are going to be Thursday and Friday before things cool back down to a regime similar to what we'll see tomorrow and Tuesday. But def widespread 55-65 for the commonwealth looks pretty likely both of those days. Funny u mention about the oceans hand in spiking the temps after storms. In this case, the warmest days on Long Island are probably going to be a bit cooler than the folks inland because of what would be in this setup.. colder ocean waters. As we get to the end of the week and are basking in the heat wave, the potential event thats been lurking off and on in the models for next week will likely become some kind of a more noteworthy topic of conversation. CTP also acknowledges possibility of a sig precip event in their long term disco. 12z Euro ultimately runs an eastern lakes GLC and possibly a mix to rain scenario for some.. maybe. 12z GFS was much further north and warmer and the new 18z GFS looks more like the Euro. There's going to be a point where the frontal boundary settles over or south of us giving us at least a marginally chilly setup beforehand, and may present a more wintry scenario if the cold air makes a great press. But given the really negative PNA pattern vs a generally netural NAO i'd say the chances of that event being a mainly rain event is very high.. Unless the -PNA pattern neutralizes in future model runs there's just nothing there really to keep the boundary from being lifted northward in response to a deepening storm. With that said, it will be something to watch for a least some of the interior northeast. Attm I just tend to think that could pose more of a wintry threat in interior New England and maybe upstate NY above I-90. Beyond, I don't think winters done at this point. There's a lot of cold air in the pattern that will likely rear its ugly head at some point and probably make for perhaps another cold period where there could be snow/ice threats. What's debatable is how quickly that happens. Until the PNA backs off to at least a more neutral regime assuming the NAO/AO is status quo, established cold is going to be unlikely. Obviously, if you like the prospects of another good snow event or so you'd want something like that to reestablish by say at least the first week of March. But if it lags and doesn't happen to the middle of March or later, it becomes alot harder given climo averages/sun angle/etc and then your just stuck with crappy cold and rainy weather. As I said the other day, this la nina hasn't exactly been "normal", so anything can happen. But I don't expect a repeat of last March this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Rob Dicon on abc27 said tonight winter is done. Said we may see below freezing temps but they should not last for more than a few days max. Thought that was brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 No, I'm sure he meant 1.4. He lives in a very cold, sheltered valley and I am down to 7 so far tonight, so he will likely wind up below zero by morning if it stays clear. Tonight is another example. The temp is falling and I am at 27.0 UNV was 44 at 10 pm. We have stuff refreezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Are you taking meteo at Hazleton? Yes, 200A this semester. It's taught by the met for WYLN-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Tonight is another example. The temp is falling and I am at 27.0 UNV was 44 at 10 pm. We have stuff refreezing. It always surprises me how UNV is so high on nights like these. It's certainly not in the downtown area and it's in the middle of mostly sheltered farm and valley land outside of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 It always surprises me how UNV is so high on nights like these. It's certainly not in the downtown area and it's in the middle of mostly sheltered farm and valley land outside of town. The only reason for it being so warm some nights that I can see is that it sits above the areas of the valley immediately surrounding it. The majority of the airport is 1215-1230ft, go 1-2 miles in any direction and you end up between 975 and 1150ft in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Looks like this maybe a decent wind event, hoping to see some gust around 40MPH. It looks like we are screwed in winter terms, the long range looks horrible, and the -PNA is going to stick around which will allow the storm track to cut into the lakes, especially with no blocking with the AO being positive. Hopefully March can save winter, which would be nice seeming how it torched the area last spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Found this weird... Overnight: Mostly cloudy, with a steady temperature around 41. Southwest wind between 3 and 6 mph. Monday: Scattered flurries after noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 39. West wind between 8 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 45F at State College....29F here wow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 25 degrees here this morning. 37 at the airport. Mag good post !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 39 this am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 45F at State College....29F here wow lol 44.2 here now after a low of 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Euro has a decent snow event for us in true central PA, GFS has it being mix to rain. Looking like 60 even up here Friday. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 44.9*F. Looks like a day off from the heavy coats today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 34F. Apparently a cold spot as places to the South are already well into the mid 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 34F. Apparently a cold spot as places to the South are already well into the mid 40's. Some cooler air trapped in the Lebanon Valley temporarily? Pretty common...there have a been a few times where I've left my house in Lebanon County when it was 40° or so, and by the time I hit Harrisburg and then Perry County it's well into the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 34F. Apparently a cold spot as places to the South are already well into the mid 40's. Yep, I had 42F when I left for work 3 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I wonder if we can make a run at 70 later this week. I read recently that models struggle this time of year with daytime heating, often overdoing cold air and underestimating warm air. Would be nice if it happened... I don't know what's gotten in to me, as much as I love snow and normally hate the onset of spring, I'm sick of the cold weather right now. I think I'd actually be content if we were done with the cold and wintery precip down here, though I do wonder if we end up getting a big storm sometime in March. I think all of the talk that winter is definitely over seems awfully bold right now considering it's still the middle of February...in 1982 we had 7" of snow in early April. A lot can still happen yet down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 I like the beginning of CTP's near term discussion...inspires confidence... NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... TEMPS CONTINUE TO DEFY GUIDANCE...HOLDING STEADY OR EVEN RISING IN SOME AREAS WHEN THEY OTHERWISE WOULD BE FALLING. MAKES TODAY`S HIGH TEMP FORECAST A REAL CHALLENGE AS WE ARE ALREADY HIGHER THAN ALL AVAILABLE GUIDANCE. I was not expecting to be sitting at 50.5° already, but I'll take it...feels great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'm going keep my eye on these snows cams this week. And see how much snow we loose in the mountains up north. http://mysite.verizon.net/vze88orm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Models suck same with MOS. High 49 on MOS here. It's 56 already. Models continue their crap into the temperature department now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I wonder if we can make a run at 70 later this week. I read recently that models struggle this time of year with daytime heating, often overdoing cold air and underestimating warm air. Would be nice if it happened... I don't know what's gotten in to me, as much as I love snow and normally hate the onset of spring, I'm sick of the cold weather right now. I think I'd actually be content if we were done with the cold and wintery precip down here, though I do wonder if we end up getting a big storm sometime in March. I think all of the talk that winter is definitely over seems awfully bold right now considering it's still the middle of February...in 1982 we had 7" of snow in early April. A lot can still happen yet down the road. I think that's quite possible, a run at 70. I don't think anyone can say, at least for up here, that winter is done. I have seen too many premature proclamations of winter's demise become buried in snow to think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 What a windy pattern coming up. I don't know if the wind at HR 120-126 will hold but that is one dang windy day. Would be Sustained 30-35 gusting to 55-65 if that held. Something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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