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Heh, life expectancy can have multiple definitions - depending on context..etc. First of all, it's not just about CC killing people. That's childish really. I just hear this other doubter's tactic all the time, too. Not saying it's you, their retorts are at times myopically linear. Reductive really is the best word for it, where they either do not understanding the nuanced complexity, or are being devices in only giving data that supports their side. I'll just say that the total assessment of life expectancy comes from addition in subtraction factors, both of which are also changing in time. Ex, a human at birth in 2025 has a much longer life expectancy than 1725 when it come to just medical standards relative to era. Other discoveries since and including the advantages of, the Industrial Revolution, is why the population of the world soared billions since 1750. This is all vastly more pervasively effecting the extension of life than millions dying from CC. (CC killing millions + population either opting out, or losing birth capacity) / 2 = some hindrance to life expectancy that has, so far, much less weight than the advantages of the last 200 years - the trailing generations of which are yet also advantaged ever more. But this is all a situation that is changing. The bottom line is... people will doubt whatever it is they don't want/can't or agenda to admit, until it causes them pain. There is no such thing in their mind as a CC. There is no such thing as a polluted penis problem. They defiantly hard headed until they suffer, then? they are usually evangelical going the other way.

Sort of a signal for something light maybe a couple days later with a WF moving in as well.

ASO 2025 RONI: -0.78

We Euro!

Good idea, I used to have one but it cracked after years of use. Never replaced it but they are good.

The first storm worth watching is showing up on the globals for the Sunday/Monday timeframe. Not thread-worthy yet, as there's still a lot to work out, but someone in the sub may see their first flakes/(sticking snow??) of the year. EDIT: Just saw ya'll talking about it in the November thread.

Would be cool if we could get a repeat of those thunder snow squalls that we saw last year.

Don't see much EPS support.

Give it another couple days at least…before we thread imo.

BWI: 22.3 DCA: 16.7 IAD: 28.3 RIC: 9.6 SBY: 11.7

For official rain at my place, I have a cocorahs gauge. I always like to compare it to the station one.

That big +WPO vortex is similar to October 2021 and 2022. It creates a steep gradient between the cold in Siberia and the record WPAC warm pool. So we get a very fast Pacific Jet as a result with frequent lows cutting through the Great Lakes. Climatologist49 ‪@climatologist49.bsky.social‬ Follow A nice 200+ mph (333+ kmh) tail wind as we head over the central north Pacific Ocean this morning. October 23, 2025 at 5:37 AM

Finally from MU: Due in large part to an unseasonably warm first week of the month, aggregate temps in #October2025 ended up slightly above average. Rainfall was near normal thanks to the "last-second save" on the 30th.

Euro weeklies

It may be worth it to thread for that if it persists. There is some index support -

Here in Chester County PA October finished as our 5th below normal temperature month over the 1st 10 months of 2025, It was the 59th coldest October over the last 133 years of county climate records. Precipitation wise it was the 53rd driest October but much wetter than last October which was our driest October on record with many spots not recording any measurable rainfall at all. This October continues our trend of slightly cooling Octobers with climate records back to 1893. Below is the October average temperature trend lines and the overall Climate Summary Detail for October 2025.

Here in Chester County PA October finished as our 5th below normal temperature month over the 1st 10 months of 2025, It was the 59th coldest October over the last 133 years of county climate records. Precipitation wise it was the 53rd driest October but much wetter than last October which was our driest October on record with many spots not recording any measurable rainfall at all. This October continues our trend of slightly cooling Octobers with climate records back to 1893. Below is the October average temperature trend lines and the overall Climate Summary Detail for October 2025.

Sorry, the above posts are out of order. LOL Forecast has a ton of similarities to last year, including the forecast of a late December/early January cold snap that he nailed.

Here you go, snow lovers! The moment you've been waiting for is here: my 2025-2026 Winter Outlook! Three primary winter-season influences will be a weak La Niña, strongly-negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) & weak stratospheric #PolarVortex (SPV). The weak SPV should allow Arctic air to plunge into the Central/Eastern States at times, mainly before mid-Jan & perhaps again in late Feb or Mar. Analogs suggest the coldest/snowiest part of winter could be around the holidays due to high-latitude (NAO/AO) blocking. Despite plenty of mild days during the 2nd half of the season, odds of a #WhiteChristmas are the highest in years. From Dec-Feb, aggregate temps should be slightly above normal (0 to +2°F). "All-rain" & "changeover" events will be common after mid-Jan with more "all-snow" events beforehand.

Ha that’s funny, I mentioned that yesterday in this specific thread too. I think I’d like to see a little bit more support for that though… But it’s a deep trough with some shortwaves rounding the bend so need to watch maybe for at least first flakes, if not, maybe minor stuff and some interior areas.

Heiny is back !

GFS joins the cold train

MU:

I haven't been talking about it as much because it's been near neutral.. the May-Sept total N. Atlantic SST indicator for Winter (DJFM) NAO came in at +0.08. It has a normal standard deviation of 0.54, so that makes it 50% likely to have a Winter NAO -0.46 to +0.64.

Pretty strong ULL solution on 12z euro for day 7-9 .