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Perhaps if they spent more time outdoors they wouldn't feel cold so easily..lol

I'll take my 2.9, if it does happen, and rejoice in my two white Christmas in a row.

Lets give this a shot I am not sure if this will be able to be downloaded and opened. In the Excel sheet I created a decade by decade side by side of RONI and ONI from CPC and charted them out to get an idea of how things sort of coincided with each other (RONI, ONI). These are trimonthly readings dating back from 1950 to present, I'll let the data speak for itself but please excuse the X-axis in the charts. The numbers are just place filler for the data to the left and it would have been rather tedious and clogged up to have date and trimonthly with the charts. RONI vs. ONI.xlsx

Yep way too early to write off the rest of December, never mind Jan and Feb

Who is canceling winter? Name names. C'mon this is banter.

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and if the precip arrives a couple hours earlier that # 1 area will be further south and east and if it is delayed a few hours arriving that # 3 area will expand further north that why I am sticking with 1 -4 for my area as of now - this is a perfect example of threading the needle..........should be interesting how most school districts handle this because many have early dismissal on Tuesday for the holidays - can't have a delayed opening on those days because it won't count as a 4 hour day........

The Euro Weeklies control...the majority of that is Jan 10-11. IF that trough slides east due to the NAO, there is a window for strong amplification which we talked about earlier. Just a control run...so TIFWIW. At least two runs in a row of cold temps. If that cold in Canada can ever make its way to the Gulf....sparks are gonna fly IMHO.

He’s also not talking about the Northeast. But agendas here…Webb lives in NC

Comical. We still don't know how the next 8-10 might play out. But whatever.

It always cracks me up when folks say…I hate it here, I hate winter. Well I mean you live in a place where it gets cold. 75-85 degrees is a-lot less frequent north of NC most of the year.

No more looking at OP runs beyond D7. At least not for me. There's really no point. It doesn't seem like models sniff signals out like that anymore the way they did in the glorious 2010s.

"Big winner"? This is a joke event

Interior NY will be the winner

RRFS also south amd drier

You the winner in that run Ant.

3k markedly different. Toss the 12k

Useless Nam

Steve D

?! It looks completely devoid of any precip in SNE

Did we just get NAM’d…

Looking at strong -WPO Decembers since 1950 verifies your statement for a -ENSO that’s in Dec and continues through JF per RONI. I count 8 strong -WPO Decembers during -ENSO winters. Here’s how the subsequent averaged WPO ended up for JF averaged out: 2013-14: -WPO 2010-11: -WPO 2005-6: +WPO 1995-6: -WPO 1983-4: neutral WPO 1961-2: -WPO 1956-7: -WPO 1955-6: -WPO So, the tally for the JF avg is 6 -WPO, 1 neutral WPO, and 1 +WPO. So, these 8 strong -WPO Decembers during -ENSO decently favored -WPO for the average of JF fwiw. Both are favored to be -WPO but Jan is the most strongly favored for that. For the SE US, 6 of the 8 Jan’s were BN (all but 2006 and 1957). But most of the Febs were AN there.

White Christmas incoming.