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All we can say is that the first 16 days of December have been one of our coldest 16 day periods relative to the means of the 2020s so far. The clipper was a nice contribution to this period feeling very wintry around the area. This was actually the coldest such period in 20 years. The new Newark records for December now go back to 1850. So this was ranked 26th coldest which is a very respectable in our warmer 2020s climate. The current 7 station departure across the area is -7.7. With the moderation coming up next few weeks, the final number this month my guess is a finish in the -3 to -4 range. Models have been fluctuating from run to so we won’t know the exact number for a weeks. A little on the warmer side of forecasts would be -2.5 to -3.5. EWR…..-8.1 NYC……-8.7 LGA……-8.7 JFK…….-7.8 HPN……-7.6 BDR…...-7.9 ISP……..-5.4 AVG…….-7.7 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1867-12-16 24.1 5 2 1904-12-16 24.6 0 3 1910-12-16 25.5 0 4 1917-12-16 25.7 4 5 1876-12-16 27.0 5 6 1868-12-16 27.3 3 7 1958-12-16 27.9 0 - 1871-12-16 27.9 1 8 1902-12-16 28.6 0 9 1989-12-16 28.8 0 - 1869-12-16 28.8 4 10 1860-12-16 28.9 2 11 1880-12-16 29.0 3 12 1895-12-16 29.1 2 13 1859-12-16 29.4 4 14 1886-12-16 29.5 4 15 1882-12-16 29.7 2 16 1915-12-16 29.8 1 17 1903-12-16 30.0 0 - 1872-12-16 30.0 2 18 2005-12-16 30.4 0 19 1976-12-16 30.6 0 20 1854-12-16 30.8 3 21 1898-12-16 31.0 0 22 1937-12-16 31.1 0 23 1942-12-16 31.2 0 24 1875-12-16 31.4 0 25 1851-12-16 31.7 4 26 2025-12-16 31.8 0 - 1945-12-16 31.8 0

Ya drive them yourself…let the snow come. We beggars..we need anything we can get . Fire up the Ram!

OMG…truer words were never spoken lol. And the one time it might, it was literally for about a minute to a minute and a half…maybe 10 flakes lmao…what a joke. Great recall United.

Lets keep those systems away from Christmas day! Get that Eve wave in early, and keep the second one for Christmas night! We're having our first big family GTG in a while and don't want people to cancel. Shit, I'll fill up the Power Wagon and drive them myself LOL

Unfortunately the Aleutian ridge doesn’t really disappear it just retrogrades west moving the MW high axis just west enough for our -NAO, a fickle look with raging -PNA but at least some positivity. Given base state with pacific id be worried this would remain a progressive pattern and any cold shot/winter weather opportunity would be limited in duration and thus somewhat unlikely even if we end up cold around new years.

And unfortunately, those strong La Niña are often a coin toss between whether there is above average snowfall in New York City or well below average snowfall in New York City. Looks like the active weather pattern will continue across for northern US and put the south and the central US states will remain warm and dry. Usually it does not bode well for the mid Atlantic when there’s only an active northern stream and the southern stream is relatively muted. That doesn’t prevent coastal storms or the big bowling ball storms and most of us need to produce meaningful snow. For New England an active northern stream is conducive for snowfall, but for most of us absolutely is not. The long range models show no signs of this pattern, letting up. There will likely be no chances for snowfall for most of us in the foreseeable future going out through at least early to mid January.

0z & 6z GFS both showed potential for Christmas wintry weather with a possible icy mix & snow for most of CTP. The Canadian last night had a mix as well. The Euro was not on board. Here is the 6z GFS for Christmas.

"Rain changing to snow before ending" The weather call of the 80s... that 99.725% of the time never happend

Can we please make this a thing. Thanks.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/spring

Some pretty positive changes on ensembles overnight regarding NAO tanking after Christmas just before new years.

I'm thinking we warm for the holiday weeks when I have multiple days off. Then, come January, when it's back to regular work weeks, we tank again. It's just my luck...

That's the next step...I haven't determined the when yet but it's getting closer every day

Yes a much needed warmup. I'm sure some on here won't agree. I know it's the holidays where most of us want snow and cold , it sets the tone for the holidays. But i'm sure there will be more winter weather to be had...probably when were ready for spring in the latter part of March.

6-9: big snow 20+: big dog

Low of 21 but 28 when I left the house. Warm front pushing through it seems.

I am really looking forward to this warm up. In addition to frozen caps and valves in the trailer, we have to deal with an icy ground truth, and salt just won't cut through that much ice because each load puts more water on the ground. The is what we deal with at the loading locations.

Please, please, please

Where the hell do we sign for that! Would be epic.. Not big enough to ruin Christmas, but just enough to put all of SNE another a solid pack of snow with snow falling on both Christmas Eve and Christmas.

Tuesday looks snowy now

Pretty solid GFS run for all things festive

55-60 in my yard on Xmas per the GFS lol keep pushing the cool air south homies.

Congrats. Have you retired yet?