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This is simply not true. Michael was strengthening right up until landfall and got to cat 5 as it was making landfall (160mph). Andrew in 1992 did the same.

Yes, I'm tying a million things and have 50 tabs open, sorry. But Was there an Official Measurement? I know they got one for Pressure, but not for the Wind. It's said to have been 185, Just like Melissa.

And the vortices near the surface. So pretty

Hoping the hills hold strong and massive landslides aren't a huge issue. She's a beast.

Would've been right on. Truly unbelievable to witness a landfall at the intensity and pressure...and to know that Wilma was 10mb deeper. Insane.

West Black River, Jamaica is gone. If this were Haiti, we would be witnessing the humanitarian crisis of our lives. Straight to the rafters with Melissa. That name is done.

So the NHC is going to call it 892 mb at landfall? I'm very skeptical. I understand the 892 mb from recon is their final real data before landfall, but the satellite presentation was clearly better a couple hours ago when recon got that measurement.

I wouldn’t say it’s all horizontal with canes, but the scale of the circulation is such that any vertical component wouldn’t be strong enough to suck you upwards. But yea in general you are correct. I do think hurricanes and tornadoes are more similar than one would think (which is why they look like each other on radar, size of the circulation Being the major difference)

Not many places having equipment able to survive and report winds like this. One would need a setup like MWN.

Unless Melissa really starting moving NE soon Montego Bay is going to get the eyewall.

Holy stadium...

I mean you don't have to go back that far.

Saint Elizabeth Parish has a population of 151,000.

46 and light rain at GSO at 1:00 pm. An impressively cold October day.

I wonder how many of these old storms would measure today with the modern equipment, hurricane hunters, etc taking measurements which were impossible to do then.

OK then follow-up - why would non-straight-line winds be more destructive than straight-line? Same force isn't it? Perhaps it's that tornadoes' winds tend to swirl upward, and thus tend to lift more debris, than hurricane winds?

Landfall... Hurricane Melissa Tropical Cyclone Update NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025 100 PM EDT Tue Oct 28 2025 ...CATEGORY 5 MELISSA MAKES LANDFALL IN JAMAICA... ...ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE LANDFALLS ON RECORD IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN... Melissa has made landfall in southwestern Jamaica near New Hope with estimated maximum sustained winds of 185 mph (295 km/h) and an estimated minimum central pressure of 892 mb (26.34 inches). THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION! Do not leave your shelter as the eye passes over, as winds will quickly, and rapidly increase on the other side of the eye. Residents should remain in place through the passage of these life-threatening conditions. To protect yourself from wind, the best thing you can do is put as many walls as possible between you and the outside. An interior room without windows, ideally one where you can also avoid falling trees, is the safest place you can be in a building. You can cover yourself with a mattress and wear a helmet for added protection. The next position update will be provided with the intermediate advisory at 200 PM EDT (1800 UTC). SUMMARY OF 100 PM EDT...1700 UTC...INFORMATION ----------------------------------------------- LOCATION...18.1N 78.0W ABOUT 25 MI...40 KM SE OF NEGRIL JAMAICA ABOUT 145 MI...235 KM S OF GUANTANAMO CUBA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...185 MPH...295 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 25 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...892 MB...26.34 INCHES

Melissa has made landfall in southwestern Jamaica near New Hope with estimated maximum sustained winds of 185 mph (295 km/h) and an estimated minimum central pressure of 892 mb (26.34 inches).

Melissa has made landfall in southwestern Jamaica near New Hope with estimated maximum sustained winds of 185 mph (295 km/h) and an estimated minimum central pressure of 892 mb (26.34 inches).

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Labor Day was Cat 5 when it made landfall. And it was 1935 not 1932.

Feels like mid November. Cool & cloudy, only 53F right now

It would really be something if a giant low came through the area and only dropped a couple of tenths in central NJ

We might actually get a good amount of rain (Wednesday night into early Thursday) AND have it hit 70 around midday Thursday.

If a bear craps in the woods but no one is there, does it smell? If a hurricane has 160 mph winds at landfall but no one measured it directly from the ground, was it a cat 5?