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We don't need a rebuild. The talent is not the problem here...the organizational system is. There are reports of similar issues in the minors too. Not talent, but...philosophy. Gunnar, Holliday, Adley, Basallo...they would all do well elsewhere almost immediately and we'd all be wondering ehy they couldn't do that here. This is why a full tear-down would be a big mistake imo--why do another torturous 3-5 years when there is another option that could fix things in a year or two?

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8 minutes ago, CAPE said:

That, and more. You think all these "core" players are gonna be here in 2-3 years? Basallo? probably. They made the investment. I wouldn't put my money on the rest, for multiple reasons. You don't want to accept it, but a rebuild is needed.

You know why I don't believe it's needed? Because 3-4 more years of losing is the nuclear option--and you don't have to do that to turn this around. You need to fire Elias/Sig and give this org a new philosophy. Talent-wise, It is not broken beyond repair like it was in 2018. Why blow it up and go through that when you have another option to turn it around sooner?

Holliday will be here. Gunnar is a maybe (his price got lower this year that's for sure). Adley isn't going anywhere, imo. 

We had a fire sale last year, did we not? Only thing to sell this year is Ward and maybe Cowser, Kittredge? Definitely not getting rid of Bradish or Baz. Rogers perhaps...but it's really not a lot worth selling.

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1 minute ago, Maestrobjwa said:

You know why I don't believe it's needed? Because 3-4 more years of losing is the nuclear option--and you don't have to do that to turn this around. It is not broken beyond repair like it was in 2018. Why blow it up and go through that when you havr another option to turn it around)

Holliday will be here. Gunnar is a maybe (his price got lower this year that's for sure). Adley isn't going anywhere, imo. 

We had a fire sale last year, did we not? Only thing to sell this year is Ward and maybe Cowser.

Adley is likely going elsewhere. Maybe this season if they are smart. His contract is up next year and they invested big money in Basallo. Come on dude. Holliday is unproven. Gunnar has been bad this season but Boras is his agent. He is gone. Dodger or Yankee guaranteed.

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46 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Adley is likely going elsewhere. Maybe this season if they are smart. His contract is up next year and they invested big money in Basallo. Come on dude. Holliday is unproven. Gunnar has been bad this season but Boras is his agent. He is gone. Dodger or Yankee guaranteed.

Says who? They extended Basallo...and Adley is not gonna completely break the bank. And the thing with the Basallo deal...they basically bought out the arb years and added on a couple. It was an investment but not one that would preclude them from signing Adley as well. And Adley has value with a pitching staff that Basallo doesn't. There is room for both--and this ownership group seems to want to spend more.

Holliday is unproven...so why in the world would you sell him right now? You don't know what you have in him yet. He is your 1:1--no way you sell him at age 22.

Gunnar is the only one where you may have a case. But here's the thing: To get Yankee or Dodger money he is gonna have to play a lot better. There will be no bidding war right now. And as far as selling him this year... do we really get max value in prospects? Nah. Now if he plays like an MVP next year, and we still suck, then maybe you do it then.

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10 hours ago, Jebman said:

That's cruel. That poor man was so hot and all he ever wanted, was some cool water. Tuco got his later, though.

Yeah, it's too disturbingly unpleasant for a profile photo. Could give the kids nightmares.
(If you want a nightmare, just go back and read through one of our winter storm threads.)

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30 minutes ago, Mrs.J said:

We have a Bakery that makes Thomas English Muffins on the road hence the name.  Nice smell unless they burn them. :D

And off topic myself but see you live in Lewes. We are coming over to do a house/pet stay for 11 days in Lewes next week. We were there last year for a day but are looking for more things to do in the area to fill the days. We will be house sitting 2 cats so do not have to stay too close. 

Lots to do in the area. Cape Henlopen State park is awesome. Dunes are pretty impressive.

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The town of Lewes is very nice- chill vibe and not overrun with people in Summer like Rehoboth. Breweries nearby and some nice places to eat.

https://www.thearmchairexplorer.com/delaware/lewes-byway.php

 

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Lots to do in the area. Cape Henlopen State park is awesome. Dunes are pretty impressive.

Historic Lewes Byway

The town of Lewes is very nice- chill vibe and not overrun with people in Summer like Rehoboth. Breweries nearby and some nice places to eat.

https://www.thearmchairexplorer.com/delaware/lewes-byway.php

 

Thanks! Yeah we did a visit of Cape Henlopen State Park but want to explore it more. So defiantly on the list. 

 

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Just about sliced my pinky finger off by dropping a bottle of wine that crashed on the door sill getting it out of the car, as the impending "storm" (lol) was about to hit. Tried to grab food and beer too like a dumbass instead of making 2 trips. Bled like a stuck pig and I think there are some glass fragments in there. Cleaned it and wrapped it up with some pressure for now and will go to urgent care tomorrow. Not sitting in ER for four hours tonight. Time to get drunk.

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Just about sliced my pinky finger off by dropping a bottle of wine that crashed on the door sill getting it out of the car, as the impending "storm" (lol) was about to hit. Tried to grab food and beer too like a dumbass instead of making 2 trips. Bled like a stuck pig and I think there are some glass fragments in there. Cleaned it and wrapped it up with some pressure for now and will go to urgent care tomorrow. Not sitting in ER for four hours tonight. Time to get drunk.

Dude. Get some sutures! :drunk:

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23 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said:

We don't need a rebuild. The talent is not the problem here...the organizational system is. There are reports of similar issues in the minors too. Not talent, but...philosophy. Gunnar, Holliday, Adley, Basallo...they would all do well elsewhere almost immediately and we'd all be wondering ehy they couldn't do that here. This is why a full tear-down would be a big mistake imo--why do another torturous 3-5 years when there is another option that could fix things in a year or two?

I think you may be over valuing the core. Serious question. Why do you feel it's Elias and company, not the players?  I would say its both. At some point players have to play and perform. None on the current roster has done it at all or hasn't really done it in a few years.

I don't really see any clutch players on this team. A few years ago Satander and O'hearn were clutch late in games. Maybe Adly somewhat,  but other than that...?  Gunner is suppose to be there best player, but man do I hate to see him come up late in the game with runners on base during a close game. Ussually ends with him pissed off chucking his bat lol.

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31 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

I think you may be over valuing the core. Serious question. Why do you feel it's Elias and company, not the players?  I would say its both. At some point players have to play and perform. None on the current roster has done it at all or hasn't really done it in a few years.

I don't really see any clutch players on this team. A few years ago Satander and O'hearn were clutch late in games. Maybe Adly somewhat,  but other than that...?  Gunner is suppose to be there best player, but man do I hate to see him come up late in the game with runners on base during a close game. Ussually ends with him pissed off chucking his bat lol.

Because of Elias/Sig philosophy. Their overuse of analytics, and not enough focus on fundamentals and actually having a winning mindset throughout the organization (major and minors) is a big problem. The fact that Cal has stepped in and become more involved in development is another clue that the problem runs deeper than the players. See, it's become readily apparent how mentally messed up these players are. They are clearly thinking way too much...and I wonder if they are being choked by the analytics.

Adley said something a couple months ago about his improvement this year. He said "Simple thoughts at the plate". Where did the complication come from? Holliday's improvements (before the injury--he's pretty much been in spring training mode up until now) came from his dad. The young players clearly had the talent coming up through the minors; there is no way they all simply fail in the same manner unless there is a deeper problem. 

See, Elias may be all numbers and computers when it comes to the talent he has brought up--and these players simply don't know how to win. We have seen their talent: we see the flashes of it--but of course it's inconsistent. But this inconsistency is not just one player; it's the whole team. How does an entire team, both younger players and veterans, fail in the exact same way 2.5 years in a row? How is the defense of the entire team this awful? How is this out third set of hitting coaches in 4 years, and a new manager, yet the same problem? You have to look at the top. They could be micromanaging things into oblivion.

Elias has been pretty good at spotting talent--particularly the bats. But what if...he simply relies on the analytics and kinda just leaves them out there...and did not instill a culture of knowing how to win? That flawed approach would translate into coaches and other personel having all the analytics in the world but no fundamentals, no "this is how you need to play to win". The "Oriole Way" has been missing for several years.

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13 hours ago, GramaxRefugee said:

Yeah, it's too disturbingly unpleasant for a profile photo. Could give the kids nightmares.
(If you want a nightmare, just go back and read through one of our winter storm threads.)

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. Its an epic Italian spaghetti western.

Currently it represents the vibe here in the eastern shore desert.

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24 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Because of Elias/Sig philosophy. Their overuse of analytics, and not enough focus on fundamentals and actually having a winning mindset throughout the organization (major and minors) is a big problem. The fact that Cal has stepped in and become more involved in development is another clue that the problem runs deeper than the players. See, it's become readily apparent how mentally messed up these players are. They are clearly thinking way too much...and I wonder if they are being choked by the analytics.

Adley said something a couple months ago about his improvement this year. He said "Simple thoughts at the plate". Where did the complication come from? Holliday's improvements (before the injury--he's pretty much been in spring training mode up until now) came from his dad. The young players clearly had the talent coming up through the minors; there is no way they all simply fail in the same manner unless there is a deeper problem. 

See, Elias may be all numbers and computers when it comes to the talent he has brought up--and these players simply don't know how to win. We have seen their talent: we see the flashes of it--but of course it's inconsistent. But this inconsistency is not just one player; it's the whole team. How does an entire team, both younger players and veterans, fail in the exact same way 2.5 years in a row? How is the defense of the entire team this awful? How is this out third set of hitting coaches in 4 years, and a new manager, yet the same problem? You have to look at the top. They could be micromanaging things into oblivion.

Elias has been pretty good at spotting talent--particularly the bats. But what if...he simply relies on the analytics and kinda just leaves them out there...and did not instill a culture of knowing how to win? That flawed approach would translate into coaches and other personel having all the analytics in the world but no fundamentals, no "this is how you need to play to win". The "Oriole Way" has been missing for several years.

Elias.. gaslighting fans

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