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Big Heat (and storms?) Week into July 4th Weekend


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13 hours ago, kgottwald said:

Yeah, almost every time an article from The Guardian appeared in my feed, it was "Climate catastrophe!! World ending, everyone's gonna die!!" I guess they're some of the folks pushing for "degrowth". I had to block them, because I'm damn sick and tired of seeing nothing but bad news, all day, every day.

I think we can all agree that the hype and gloom/doom everywhere is a problem.  Find some common ground on an issue/debate, and work from there.

If we do not quantify a problem/issue properly, then how are we supposed to handle/address it properly?  Resources and $$ are finite/limited, and we know wasteful spending/graft are rife.  You are not going act the best way if you are fired-up and we are fighting among ourselves!

Emotional, knee-jerk reactions to problems/issues almost always end up counterproductive.  Perhaps not at first, but the long-term, and the long-term is what counts.  But it is a challenge for all of us to think more iong-term and in the abstract b/c we want solutions and things fixed now!  Shortcoming and fallacies of human nature always are there causing their own problems.  But realizing/understanding this as a base, make discussions/debates better IMHO.

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22 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

I think we can all agree that the hype and gloom/doom everywhere is a problem.  Find some common ground on an issue/debate, and work from there.

If we do not quantify a problem/issue properly, then how are we supposed to handle/address it properly?  Resources and $$ are finite/limited, and we know wasteful spending/graft are rife.  You are not going act the best way if you are fired-up and we are fighting among ourselves!

Emotional, knee-jerk reactions to problems/issues almost always end up counterproductive.  Perhaps not at first, but the long-term, and the long-term is what counts.  But it is a challenge for all of us to think more iong-term and in the abstract b/c we want solutions and things fixed now!  Shortcoming and fallacies of human nature always are there causing their own problems.  But realizing/understanding this as a base, make discussions/debates better IMHO.

We can agree. Snowenoutthere, a college student, wrote eloquently about rejecting this type of nihilism. I don't know who you're arguing with here but you keep trotting this out, a bit like a strawman, which is a..you know what. Anyway there's a separate forum for this whole discussion and I'm probably about to get in trouble. Why don't you share your take on the science there (not the nihilism, we get that).

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