nw baltimore wx Posted Tuesday at 01:20 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:20 AM This team should sell everyone. Absolutely terrible. The worst thing for the Orioles future is how bad the AL is right now. They’re delusional. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM Just now, nw baltimore wx said: This team should sell everyone. Absolutely terrible. The worst thing for the Orioles future is how bad the AL is right now. They’re delusional. Can we sell the GM and Manager too. This team is awful. I loved when they puffed there chest out after taking 2 of 3 from the dodgers saying they can play with anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormpc Posted Tuesday at 01:26 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:26 AM The CORE has struggled since mid 2024. No one has gotten better. Thats the problem. No money spent on FA starters doomed them as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormpc Posted Tuesday at 01:27 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:27 AM Pete is a wasted bandaid. 3 years from now he's Chris Davis. And they are not ready to win now or in the next couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted Tuesday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:33 AM 8 minutes ago, Chris78 said: Can we sell the GM and Manager too. This team is awful. I loved when they puffed there chest out after taking 2 of 3 from the dodgers saying they can play with anyone. They can play with anyone. They have the talent, just don’t play to their potential really ever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted Tuesday at 05:34 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:34 AM 3 hours ago, WxUSAF said: They can play with anyone. They have the talent, just don’t play to their potential really ever This is the reason why I am against selling this year (other than maybe Ward or Mayo). I still believe in the talent of this team--I think a GM change will help. Alby it's way too early to tell what kind of manager he'll become...because the problems they have right now? They started back in 2024. Who knows if it may just take a season to scrub out the old mentality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Tuesday at 10:49 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:49 AM 5 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said: This is the reason why I am against selling this year (other than maybe Ward or Mayo). I still believe in the talent of this team--I think a GM change will help. Alby it's way too early to tell what kind of manager he'll become...because the problems they have right now? They started back in 2024. Who knows if it may just take a season to scrub out the old mentality? Sometimes, despite the apparent talent, it just doesn't work collectively. Not aways easy to pin down, and in most cases there are multiple reasons. Look at the Mets the past 2 seasons. Absolute disaster. I think its time to make changes. Make some deals at the deadline but more for the future, not necessarily to try to win now. Trade Alonso. Get a couple good younger players, and jettison players like Mayo and Cowser. Busts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolsheds Posted Tuesday at 11:11 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:11 AM So frustrating to watch the lack of accountability on a day to day basis. They are making minor league mistakes on simple infield defensive plays and don't forget the baserunning gaffes. THe players are accountable at this level, but the coaching should also be held accountable. Definitely need to make some major changes before they get any better. Makes me wonder why they don't get someone like Joe Madden to come in and clean house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted Tuesday at 02:01 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:01 PM 4 hours ago, CAPE said: Sometimes, despite the apparent talent, it just doesn't work collectively. Not aways easy to pin down, and in most cases there are multiple reasons. Look at the Mets the past 2 seasons. Absolute disaster. I think its time to make changes. Make some deals at the deadline but more for the future, not necessarily to try to win now. Trade Alonso. Get a couple good younger players, and jettison players like Mayo and Cowser. Busts. Trade Alonso...are you serious? I hope you're not. We just signed him for 5 years, biggest FA signing in 2 decades--that is not happening, man lol I mean do you know how dumb that would look? Not to mention the message it sends to future star FAs of his caliber we wanna go after? "Yeah we made a big 5-year commitment to you but now half a season in...bye-bye!" Nah dude this particular take is not it, lol Now Cowser and Mayo, Ward and possibly Rogers I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabatic Posted Tuesday at 02:49 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:49 PM In case anyone was wondering. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM I was at the O's game last night. Besides the two defensive mistakes by the infield (only one of which was an error). The O's did not do terrible. The score did not reflect how close it was IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolsheds Posted Tuesday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:09 PM 11 minutes ago, wxmeddler said: I was at the O's game last night. Besides the two defensive mistakes by the infield (only one of which was an error). The O's did not do terrible. The score did not reflect how close it was IMHO. I agree. Was working some summer league games and got in the car at 3-2 and listened to the wheels fall off. They had 2 runners thrown out at the plate in extra innings in the past 2 weeks which could have changed the outcome of both games. Right now they are making fundamental errors which major league players shouldn't. Offensively, they are horrible. I do think Coswer is trying to get more selective at the plate, but still can't hit breaking balls. Neither can Mayo. And who knows what is in Henderson's head since the first month. I feel bad for Baz since he gets no run support. A lot broken right now and it is probably too much to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Tuesday at 07:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:30 PM If we buy this year, it’ll set us back years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted Tuesday at 07:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:36 PM 4 hours ago, toolsheds said: I agree. Was working some summer league games and got in the car at 3-2 and listened to the wheels fall off. They had 2 runners thrown out at the plate in extra innings in the past 2 weeks which could have changed the outcome of both games. Right now they are making fundamental errors which major league players shouldn't. Offensively, they are horrible. I do think Coswer is trying to get more selective at the plate, but still can't hit breaking balls. Neither can Mayo. And who knows what is in Henderson's head since the first month. I feel bad for Baz since he gets no run support. A lot broken right now and it is probably too much to fix. The offense and relief need more work than the defense to be honest. And for the defense, it's the left side infield that's mostly the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM 1 hour ago, nw baltimore wx said: If we buy this year, it’ll set us back years. If he buys it will be someone with control for next season, not just a rental for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM 6 hours ago, katabatic said: In case anyone was wondering. They just had a good snow event in the mountains of Montana! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Tuesday at 09:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:33 PM 42 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: If he buys it will be someone with control for next season, not just a rental for this year. I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Tuesday at 09:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:58 PM The coaching is awful. Gunner is in a total funk, yet they start him every game in the 2 hole. Give him a day off here and there, and move him down in the lineup. He is feeling the pressure and it only exacerbates his struggles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabatic Posted Tuesday at 11:23 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:23 PM 2 hours ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: They just had a good snow event in the mountains of Montana! Yes! I have a cousin that lives outside of Anaconda, MT and he said he got a pretty good dump. Kinda reminds me of the Unabomber so we don't talk often but still the (almost) July snowstorm is pretty damn neat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM Lol Os 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Wednesday at 02:09 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:09 AM Is there any wildfire smoke in the area? I smell it but assuming it’s local. And I heard about the big fire Rosedale but this smells like a campfire and not mixed with chemicals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormpc Posted Wednesday at 02:23 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:23 AM No compete for the Orioles tonight. Another bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM 20 minutes ago, Stormpc said: No compete for the Orioles tonight. Another bad one. I think any regular knows my position. I won’t say it again to not trigger Maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted Wednesday at 03:40 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:40 AM 58 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said: I think any regular knows my position. I won’t say it again to not trigger Maestro. I'm actually not 100% sure what you're referring to, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Wednesday at 04:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:06 AM 21 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: I'm actually not 100% sure what you're referring to, lol I was just referring to how much you defend the O's. Personally, I think Albernez was a huge mistake and, although I'm sure there are many that will disagree with me on this, but I'd be selling big time this year. Gunnar included, unless he is willing to accept a lower contract until he delivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted Wednesday at 04:55 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:55 AM 19 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said: I was just referring to how much you defend the O's. Personally, I think Albernez was a huge mistake and, although I'm sure there are many that will disagree with me on this, but I'd be selling big time this year. Gunnar included, unless he is willing to accept a lower contract until he delivers. I am not a blind defender, man. In another social media outlet, people got on me for being too negative when I said the season was likely over after the Blue Jays series last month and them losing 4 in row after appearing to gain momentum. I think some mistook my vigorous back-and-forth with @Chris78 a couple years ago as me being a kool-aide drinker...whereas that debate was over the culpability of ownership that was just getting settled in. And for the record now this IS their responsibility...they may have made a mistake not firing Elias & Sig and starting completely fresh in the FO. But DEFINITELY this year...they HAVE to fire him, or else they would be choosing even more mediocrity. On Albernaz: I think we should reserve judgement for now. The problems we see were here before he got here...and I'm starting to wonder even if a Bocci-type grizzled veteran would've been able to fix the issues in a year. And again, with the Elias problem...even less so. So I'm not sure about Alby yet, tbh On selling: Other than Ward, Rogers, maybe Cowser, Kittridge...I don't think selling is the answer. The core we have I am almost certain will play well elsewhere--especially Gunnar. It's something deeper going on in the org that is messing them up right now. If they show Elias the door, the more system-wide problems could improve, and this same group finally plays to their potential. And besides...they know fans do NOT want to see another full-scale rebuild with more 100-loss seasons to come. Sell the young core and that's almost a guarantee. And from a talent standpoint--that drastic of a step is may not be necessary right now. And besides...we literally had a firesale last year. In summary: I'd much rather they clean out the front office first and keep the young core intact...that would address the issues that got us here better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM 19 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said: I am not a blind defender, man. In another social media outlet, people got on me for being too negative when I said the season was likely over after the Blue Jays series last month and them losing 4 in row after appearing to gain momentum. I think some mistook my vigorous back-and-forth with @Chris78 a couple years ago as me being a kool-aide drinker...whereas that debate was over the culpability of ownership that was just getting settled in. And for the record now this IS their responsibility...they may have made a mistake not firing Elias & Sig and starting completely fresh in the FO. But DEFINITELY this year...they HAVE to fire him, or else they would be choosing even more mediocrity. On Albernaz: I think we should reserve judgement for now. The problems we see were here before he got here...and I'm starting to wonder even if a Bocci-type grizzled veteran would've been able to fix the issues in a year. And again, with the Elias problem...even less so. So I'm not sure about Alby yet, tbh On selling: Other than Ward, Rogers, maybe Cowser, Kittridge...I don't think selling is the answer. The core we have I am almost certain will play well elsewhere--especially Gunnar. It's something deeper going on in the org that is messing them up right now. If they show Elias the door, the more system-wide problems could improve, and this same group finally plays to their potential. And besides...they know fans do NOT want to see another full-scale rebuild with more 100-loss seasons to come. Sell the young core and that's almost a guarantee. And from a talent standpoint--that drastic of a step is may not be necessary right now. And besides...we literally had a firesale last year. In summary: I'd much rather they clean out the front office first and keep the young core intact...that would address the issues that got us here better. It's really hard to fiquire out exactly why, but it's been 2 full seasons of bad baseball going back to about the half point in 2024. It's not a small sample size anymore. The team just isn't as talented as what they were made out to be. Even Gunner has been on a downward spiral for the last 2 seasons. I'm torn on what direction they need to head in long term but what there doing now isn't working and hasn't worked for 2 full seasons now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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