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Central PA Winter 25/26 Discussion and Obs


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15 minutes ago, Jns2183 said:

@canderdon this is winter version and reverse uno for 6 week period over this summer when 6 seperate events left me with .47" of rain and you with 5". Each of those events I had less than .10" while you had .75 to .89. I can understand if it was a random one-off event but it was weird seeing a pattern like that in the summer

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Ha it really is 

I do have huge flakes falling here now 

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Shortly before 11:00pm here in Carlisle...there has been nothing but light snow for the past 3 hours, and amazingly my snow depth on the board has not increased for all 3 hours.  I'm still at 1.5" which is where I was back at 8:00pm.  Temperature was 32.4 during most of the time but did briefly drop to 32.2 during the past hour.  What is falling is simply being swallowed up by compaction.  I'll have a midnight ob when I'll clear my board and melt down what snow accumulated inside my gauge.

I'm not liking the "ammunition" that MU will walk away with when this storm is over.  UGHH

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I literally just saw two supped up kias try to race each on 11/15 north starting at the light at market street. Reffing the engines waiting for red light to turn green, take off flooring it and about 1.5 seconds later both lose control spinning into each, fiberglass kits shattering. Looks like they both lost side view mirror, parts of their bumper, a tail fan. Both got the hell out of there onto a side street pretty quickly. The ones muffler was dragging throwing off sparks.

That truly was the single stupidest thing I've seen in life. Literal on the same level as the guy who jumped in the ocean offg the booze party boat at night in thet Caribbean with numerous large sharks following

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1 minute ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Very light snow of the barely-accumulating variety continues here with a temp of 30.  It could not be more boring but I am determined to make it to my midnight observation ha.  Carry on.

I'm heading to bed now. I'm writing a postmortem tomorrow at some point. I have some thoughts...

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Shortly before 11:00pm here in Carlisle...there has been nothing but light snow for the past 3 hours, and amazingly my snow depth on the board has not increased for all 3 hours.  I'm still at 1.5" which is where I was back at 8:00pm.  Temperature was 32.4 during most of the time but did briefly drop to 32.2 during the past hour.  What is falling is simply being swallowed up by compaction.  I'll have a midnight ob when I'll clear my board and melt down what snow accumulated inside my gauge.
I'm not liking the "ammunition" that MU will walk away with when this storm is over.  UGHH
Now now, his time will come. I implore you to dust off your records on the fabled 2010 winter. Look at those gradients, last second model moves, and unlikely target zone. I remember joking around in the message boards with everyone that the local Mets had achieved a feat I thought impossible. For each of the 3 big storms that year (December and 2 in February) they ended up being off by nearly factor of 2 in their predictions at the time first flakes fell. Basically they kept calling for 6-10" and we ended up with 15"-20". How do you think he would have handled those?

Every forecaster has bias, hell it's even good he knows what he is. I just can't get over the mental frame he has of trying working hard to increase his bias. Every bit of success he seems to embrace his bias publicly a bit more each day, like a gambler on a winning streak trying to talk shit to the dealer.

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DISCUSSION...
KEY MESSAGE 1: Light to moderate snow continues tonight as the
western edge of the precip shield from a strong coastal storm
impacts central PA.

Rain turned to snow across the lower Susq valley around 5 PM.
Since sunset, accumulation rates have been near 0.5"/hr in
some of the snow bands across portions of the Lower Susq Valley
and farther north towards Schuylkill Co. A secondary band in
central PA, located within an inverted trough, has been
producing snowfall at rates of 0.25-0.5"/hr.

Expect similar intensities through about 2-3 AM as easterly
isentropic ascent at midlevels is maximized. Still a medium
chance (40-70 pct) that 1"/hr rates push into far eastern
Lancaster County between midnight tonight and sunrise on Monday,
but by and large the heaviest snow bands will miss our CWA to
the east. Storm total snow (which includes snow that fell and
subsequently melted this AM) is expected to range from 4-8" from
Schuylkill Co south into Lancaster County and southeastern York
County, with locally higher amounts possible in northeast
Lancaster County and the higher terrain of Schuylkill County.
Totals of 3-8" still expected in the higher terrain of the
central ridge and valley region intersected by the north-south
oriented snow band in the inverted trough. Lower amounts at
lower elevations and on paved surfaces. Much of the accumulation
is over by sunrise Monday, with lighter snow continuing through
the morning in spots.

 

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Just now, Blizzard of 93 said:
DISCUSSION...
KEY MESSAGE 1: Light to moderate snow continues tonight as the
western edge of the precip shield from a strong coastal storm
impacts central PA.

Rain turned to snow across the lower Susq valley around 5 PM.
Since sunset, accumulation rates have been near 0.5"/hr in
some of the snow bands across portions of the Lower Susq Valley
and farther north towards Schuylkill Co. A secondary band in
central PA, located within an inverted trough, has been
producing snowfall at rates of 0.25-0.5"/hr.

Expect similar intensities through about 2-3 AM as easterly
isentropic ascent at midlevels is maximized. Still a medium
chance (40-70 pct) that 1"/hr rates push into far eastern
Lancaster County between midnight tonight and sunrise on Monday,
but by and large the heaviest snow bands will miss our CWA to
the east. Storm total snow (which includes snow that fell and
subsequently melted this AM) is expected to range from 4-8" from
Schuylkill Co south into Lancaster County and southeastern York
County, with locally higher amounts possible in northeast
Lancaster County and the higher terrain of Schuylkill County.
Totals of 3-8" still expected in the higher terrain of the
central ridge and valley region intersected by the north-south
oriented snow band in the inverted trough. Lower amounts at
lower elevations and on paved surfaces. Much of the accumulation
is over by sunrise Monday, with lighter snow continuing through
the morning in spots.

 

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1 hour ago, Jns2183 said:

What's the elevation there

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By the time I got your message, I was on the way down. I cant figured out how to to check my elevation accurately unless i'm actually at the spot. I'll check it next time I'm there. According to Ai, 404 steigerwalt hollow is around 450' so if that's accurate, I was probably at around 500'.

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It’s been a much more powdery snow with this 2nd wave that made it back here a few hours ago. The streets and stuff have caved with temps now back to 28ºF but the rates just aren’t doing it here. I only have about 0.7” new in all that time. Combined with the initial snow that came through overnight last night into first thing Sun morning that brings me right around 2” total for the storm so far. 

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1 hour ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Come on heavier band… keep drifting south…just another 20 miles…you can do it!

(now I’m talking to the radar…lol…this storm really has got to me…)

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I was driving around for a bit and yeah heavier snow in that band around harrisburg 

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12am Obs:  Temp remains constant at 30 with very light snow and .8" of additional snowfall, for a total of 2.4".  Yes, you read that correctly, even down here in the heart of Lancaster County, in what was supposed to be the best time period, I received less than an inch over the course of four hours.  This storm is a bust down here, no other way to put it.  Still, I will wake up in the morning and be happy to see white.  Tracking begins anew tomorrow ha.  Good night everyone.

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