December 2025 OBS and Discussion

[Brian5671]

22 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

Belleayre today. Best start to season in years! Weve got cold, we are in the game!

Looks like mid-winter!

[NEG NAO]

16 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Looks like mid-winter!

Belleayre should be considered to be Upstate NY not NYC Metro - I know we have had this discussion before - most of NYC metro doesn't look like mid-winter with most of us not seeing a flake yet........

[IrishRob17]

Another day of flurries, maybe a heavier squall in a bit, 38/26. 

[psv88]

So no snow threats now. Sweet

[eduggs]

I remember many winters back through the 90s where there was bare ground through Xmas/New Years even up into the North Country and Vermont... sometimes even in the heart of winter, especially outside the mountains. So far this year it's deep winter throughout the interior. That could be a harbinger of things to come. There's been a bit of a screw zone relative to climo over the past few years from EPA through NENJ and SENY while places north, east, and south have cashed in occasionally. That experience can create a negative bias with respect to future outcomes. But eventually our luck will change despite the warming global climate.