allgame830 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Floydbuster said: How far can we go until we reach restricted Cuban airspace? I think in the past recon was given the go fly over their airspace or maybe I’m wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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donsutherland1 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 7 minutes ago, allgame830 said: I think in the past recon was given the go fly over their airspace or maybe I’m wrong? Yes, they have clearance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago If fhose really intense pink colored convection can wrap completely wrap around the center, will we see it reach cat 5 status again before it hits Cuba? Or will it only make it to Cat 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Wannabehippie said: If fhose really intense pink colored convection can wrap completely wrap around the center, will we see it reach cat 5 status again before it hits Cuba? Or will it only make it to Cat 3-4? probably only a high 4, but she’s relentless. Anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 11:00 PM EDT Tue Oct 28 Location: 19.3°N 76.6°W Moving: NE at 9 mph Min pressure: 950 mb Max sustained: 130 mph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Given the broader core and limited time over water, I would bet against Melissa re-attaining Cat 5 status. Perhaps flight level winds will begin to resemble that intensity again, but it is highly unlikely those winds would get down to the surface in time. If Melissa had another 18 hours or so before landfall it’s a different story. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Boston Bulldog said: Given the broader core and limited time over water, I would bet against Melissa re-attaining Cat 5 status. Perhaps flight level winds will begin to resemble that intensity again, but it is highly unlikely those winds would get down to the surface in time. If Melissa had another 18 hours or so before landfall it’s a different story. Center sonde has a 954mb reading with 6kt wind so despite the satellite appearance, it hasn’t translated into strength in a substantial way yet. Obviously still need to see the SW and NE quadrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Center sonde has a 954mb reading with 6kt wind so despite the satellite appearance, it hasn’t translated into strength in a substantial way yet. Obviously still need to see the SW and NE quadrants. I am not sure the plane got dead center of the hurricane.https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF301-2613A-MELISSA.pnghttps://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF301-2613A-MELISSA_dropsondes.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Wannabehippie said: I am not sure the plane got dead center of the hurricane.https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF301-2613A-MELISSA.pnghttps://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF301-2613A-MELISSA_dropsondes.png Given how light the wind was, even if it missed by a touch I would bet it doesn’t make much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Really impressed by how well Melissa's mid level vortex held together and how fast the eyewall is reorganizing. It's not got a lot of time before landfall in Cuba, but it has incredible upper level support and obviously high SSTs to reintensify some in short order. At least maintain current intensity. Should be a Category 4 strike. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Really impressed by how well Melissa's mid level vortex held together and how fast the eyewall is reorganizing. It's not got a lot of time before landfall in Cuba, but it has incredible upper level support and obviously high SSTs to reintensify some in short order. At least maintain current intensity. Should be a Category 4 strike. Agreed, the ongoing contraction of the core as the vortices get back in concert with each other tells me we should see additional pressure falls through landfall. Insanely anomalous to get a Cat-4 strike in this area of Cuba that is so well guarded by mountainous islands. Sandy is obviously the gold standard when it comes to poleward tracking hurricane intensification over the Eastern Cayman Trench (kind of shocked there isn't a more descriptive name that's easy to find for this body of water), but Melissa is putting on an impressive performance. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Worried about Santiago de Cuba. Second largest city in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Worried about Santiago de Cuba. Second largest city in the country.Chivrico is a town that might get a direct hit. It's west of Santiago on coastal route 20. It's located at -76.4 W and that looks about where the eye will come ashore. Santiago should be just far enough east to stay out of the eyewall.Fortunately, the location around Chivrico is not as prone to surge. Melissa will be mostly a wind event and hopefully it's gaining enough forward speed to mitigate flash flooding from torrential rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago VHT bursting in the northern eyewall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Windspeed said: VHT bursting in the northern eyewall. Not sure how much time it has left, but it’s really trying to intensify. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Not sure how much time it has left, but it’s really trying to intensify.Perhaps two to three hours to landfall based on radar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Perhaps two to three hours to landfall based on radar. With recon done I doubt there are any new updates to intensity outside of whatever they decide at 2am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Trying to adjust and pinpoint motion to landfall. Barring any wobbles, it looks like the center will cross somewhere directly between Chivrico and Santiago. There is a small community on route 20 located there with an icon on the coast named Playa Aserradero. Not sure if anyone is familiar with the coastal region there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2:00 AM EDT Wed Oct 29 Location: 19.7°N 76.4°W Moving: NE at 10 mph Min pressure: 952 mb Max sustained: 125 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallopinggertie Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Trying to adjust and pinpoint motion to landfall. Barring any wobbles, it looks like the center will cross somewhere directly between Chivrico and Santiago. There is a small community on route 20 located there with an icon on the coast named Playa Aserradero. Not sure if anyone is familiar with the coastal region there. Any thoughts on surge threat for Santiago de Cuba? I looked the city up on Google street view, there are some photo spheres showing that part of the colonial heart is just a few feet above the bay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2:00 AM EDT Wed Oct 29 Location: 19.7°N 76.4°W Moving: NE at 10 mph Min pressure: 952 mb Max sustained: 125 mph Dropped a category, I see. I figured they'd at least hold at a 4 since the satellite appearance had recovered this evening. But a few knots difference is paltry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Any thoughts on surge threat for Santiago de Cuba? I looked the city up on Google street view, there are some photo spheres showing that part of the colonial heart is just a few feet above the bay there. Hopefully, they will stay out of the southeastern quadrant of the eyewall. Based on radar motion, they should miss it to their west. The terrain at the coast is rather rugged west of Santiago, so surge isn't as much a problem there. But Santiago proper has the harbor and low-lying area. They probably will get some surge, but not as bad as actually taking a hit from within eyewall. Melissa is also moving at a pretty decent clip now, so hopefully inland flooding off of the higher elevations won't compound the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Windspeed said: 27 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: 2:00 AM EDT Wed Oct 29 Location: 19.7°N 76.4°W Moving: NE at 10 mph Min pressure: 952 mb Max sustained: 125 mph Dropped a category, I see. I figured they'd at least hold at a 4 since the satellite appearance had recovered this evening. But a few knots difference is paltry. I read that maybe recon is not finding much to support above 115 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago The northern eyewall is now onshore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago For as long as I live, I will never forget Melissa. What a storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I would expect the mountainous terrain of Eastern Cuba to rip up the low-level vorticity quite a bit here. Might not drop below hurricane intensity, but that combined with increasing shear, I doubt Melissa will be able to regain major status again prior to any impact on Bermuda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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