Evie3 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Rjay said: During the initial covid surge our healthcare system was completely overwhelmed and officials did their best to stop the spread and to make sure the system didnt completely collaspe. It was an unprecedented situation for modern times. You had most hopsitals that were full, excessive amounts of death and healthcare workers extremely ill and/or overworked. I witnessed this first hand. It was a nightmare. Respectfully, and I realize that this is OT/Banter, I'm aware that the news was full of stories like this. However, my husband died in our home on hospice care in August of 2020 (absolutely nothing to do with COVID), and was in and out of the hospital 3 times between May 2020 and August 2020, in his case, the VA hospital in East Orange NJ (because he had VA benefits). They had COVID restrictions in place, we were not allowed to visit him while in the hospital etc. He had 3 separate admissions via the ER between the end of May and his passing in August. The ER was empty or nearly empty all three times we were there and we experienced zero delays in getting care for him, even though his condition was not immediately life threatening from a triage standpoint. So, I don't know what to say, should I believe the stories I've been told or what my lying eyes saw? I'm afraid I'm a skeptic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Today was definitely one of those storms in which the official measuring approach yielded very different results from the average citizen putting a yardstick in the snow after the event. I have no reason to doubt the official numbers. I'm just saying that the "average of multiple yardstick measurements" approach for me mid morning as things were tapering down averaged about 18", a far cry from the 2 feet measured officially. Sometimes I wonder why the yardstick in the snow after the fact isn't the way to go. If you're going for some consistent measurement of what fell, you might as well go with liquid equivalent before you go with wiping a board periodically, which to me results in a number that means almost nothing to the public. Even wiping a board is going to be impacted by some compaction, so what's the point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Now winter is canceled...pretty please 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NsWx516 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 17 minutes ago, Rjay said: Now winter is canceled...pretty please Just re-title the thread Winter UNCANCELED Banter 25/26 and we should be clear from here on out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, NsWx516 said: Just re-title the thread Winter UNCANCELED Banter 25/26 and we should be clear from here on out Actually, I was about to ask when we are starting a thread for Thursday. I kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Today was definitely one of those storms in which the official measuring approach yielded very different results from the average citizen putting a yardstick in the snow after the event. I have no reason to doubt the official numbers. I'm just saying that the "average of multiple yardstick measurements" approach for me mid morning as things were tapering down averaged about 18", a far cry from the 2 feet measured officially. Sometimes I wonder why the yardstick in the snow after the fact isn't the way to go. If you're going for some consistent measurement of what fell, you might as well go with liquid equivalent before you go with wiping a board periodically, which to me results in a number that means almost nothing to the public. Even wiping a board is going to be impacted by some compaction, so what's the point? I wipe the boards once every 24 hours. For me it's consistently at midnight so it happened that I cleared the boards about mid-way through the storm and added 9" + 8" to total 17". If the same snowfall distribution had occured in a calendar day instead of crossing midnight, I would have had about 14.5". I am not particularly comfortable with such random differences. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/22/2026 at 9:14 PM, MJO812 said: I just re-read this. A 20-40% chance of heavy snow which starts inside 7 days from now already. Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, NorthShoreWx said: I wipe the boards once every 24 hours. For me it's consistently at midnight so it happened that I cleared the boards about mid-way through the storm and added 9" + 8" to total 17". If the same snowfall distribution had occured in a calendar day instead of crossing midnight, I would have had about 14.5". I am not particularly comfortable with such random differences. I had 9" at midnight too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I decided to look for the famous Kocin/Uccellini Northeast Snowstorms Vols 1 &2 that are often referenced here. I always assumed that you need a strong meteorology background to have a chance of getting through it, but seeing some excerpts online tonight it seems to be in more layman-friendly language than I expected. Would having a modest statistics background and reasonable reading comprehension skills be enough to be able to digest these volumes? From what I saw it seemed doable and very interesting. Would appreciate any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WeatherGeek2025 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: hey Tony, how many inches of snow has central park received in 2025-2026 winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 13 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: I wipe the boards once every 24 hours. For me it's consistently at midnight so it happened that I cleared the boards about mid-way through the storm and added 9" + 8" to total 17". If the same snowfall distribution had occured in a calendar day instead of crossing midnight, I would have had about 14.5". I am not particularly comfortable with such random differences. I have no reason to doubt the Providence numbers one way or the other, but I'd be very surprised if the max depth was even 6 inches within their 38 inch total. I actually checked the data there. They had 5 inches depth before the storm started and 21 inch depth at midnight last night. Hmmmm, measuring every hour maybe on a clean board? Even Newark airport 27.2 inches snow, max depth 18 inches. This is why snowfall measurements are somewhat exasperating. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: I have no reason to doubt the Providence numbers one way or the other, but I'd be very surprised if the max depth was even 6 inches within their 38 inch total. I actually checked the data there. They had 5 inches depth before the storm started and 21 inch depth at midnight last night. Hmmmm, measuring every hour maybe on a clean board? Even Newark airport 27.2 inches snow, max depth 18 inches. This is why snowfall measurements are somewhat exasperating. FWIW, this mornings depths in that area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 10/8/2025 at 9:04 AM, forkyfork said: i hope we never get a snowy winter again LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: hey Tony, how many inches of snow has central park received in 2025-2026 winter 42.0 on the nose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 42.0 on the noseI think MMU is right at 40. Wonder whom the highest and lowest in the NYC area is? (Like, how far out do we count in a radius from CPK, 30 miles? 45? More?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, North and West said: I think MMU is right at 40. Wonder whom the highest and lowest in the NYC area is? (Like, go far out do we count in a radius from CPK, 30 miles? 45? More?) . I say 50. By radius I believe that would take you to Newburgh, Toms River, Riverhead LI, and Hackettstown NJ. Looking at that on a map it should probably be 60. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 51 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: LOL. sorry your snow is melting quickly in the late winter sun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 52 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: LOL. He's in misery this winter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 19 minutes ago, forkyfork said: sorry your snow is melting quickly in the late winter sun Not bothering me at all. We had snow on the ground for 3 weeks after the January snowstorm because it was so cold. You wanted us to believe that we could never have a cold winter again. You must be stunned about this winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 instead of posting you should be outside with the snow before it's gone 6 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 34 minutes ago, forkyfork said: instead of posting you should be outside with the snow before it's gone deflect deflect defect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 you could even hear dripping sounds right after the storm ended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: you could even hear dripping sounds right after the storm ended Heard that during the storm too, but just assumed it was snowman19's tears. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: I have no reason to doubt the Providence numbers one way or the other, but I'd be very surprised if the max depth was even 6 inches within their 38 inch total. I actually checked the data there. They had 5 inches depth before the storm started and 21 inch depth at midnight last night. Hmmmm, measuring every hour maybe on a clean board? Even Newark airport 27.2 inches snow, max depth 18 inches. This is why snowfall measurements are somewhat exasperating. The 21" figure is from 7 am yesterday. This morning's 7 am figure was 39". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 30 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Heard that during the storm too, but just assumed it was snowman19's tears. wonder if he'll ever come back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Brian5671 said: wonder if he'll ever come back.... Hey just to be clear I meant that all in good fun. I like the contrarian stuff, it keeps things interesting. I contribute nothing of value here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Hey just to be clear I meant that all in good fun. I like the contrarian stuff, it keeps things interesting. I contribute nothing of value here.Deleting this app would be great for my mental health, but there are too many good and funny posts I would miss in the darkest, coldest time of the year.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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