June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[Rjay]

5 hours ago, TWCCraig said:

Weatherbell has a great color scheme. Only downsides are there's no 32°F isotherm and the temperature anomaly maps will make you think -4°F is just as significant +9°F. They're skewed to make below average temps look even more below average.

Pivotal is hilarious though, making 60 degrees look like it's 90 lol

Pivotal is bad. Weathebell's anomaly maps are a joke.  They literally make everything look cooler than any other site.  Unless they fixed this issue over the last couple of months. 

[Rjay]

My high was 83

[psv88]

Topped out at 86

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Wannabehippie said:

Am I reading this map correctly, temps in the Gulf Stream are below normal pretty much all the way from the coast of the Carolinas to more than midway to the UK?

I just saw that the SST near Montauk are already up to 73!  No wonder Montauk was at 78 degrees at 4 pm! It's warmer there than it is in south NJ (69) or Fire Island (65).

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Montauk 83, wow thats hot for them.

 

Looks like Central Park peaked at 86

 

AQI is 147 which is pretty high.

5 pm update Central Park reached 87 and the AQI peaked at 161 which is bad for EVERYONE.  They said that the Canadian wildfire smoke wasn't just in the upper atmosphere but made it down close to the ground too which added to the problem with ground level ozone which we had since yesterday.

My high was 85 here and 91 inside my house so I turned on my a/c at 4:30

[donsutherland1]

Tomorrow will be another warm day with the temperature rising into the lower and perhaps middle 80s. A shower or thunderstorm is possible during the afternoon or evening. The weekend will turn somewhat cooler with high temperatures returning to the 70s.

Showers and thundershowers are possible during the weekend. Rainfall amounts should generally be light except where scattered locations see heavier thunderstorms.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around May 28. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

The SOI was +7.45 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.874 today.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Highs:

TEB: 90
EWR: 90
New Brnswck: 89
LGA: 88
NYC: 87
PHL: 87
BLM: 86
TTN: 86
ACY: 84
ISP: 83
JFK: 81

[SACRUS]

PA Storms to fizzle but cloud debris may linger into tomorrow

 

[LibertyBell]

57 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Highs:

TEB: 90
EWR: 90
New Brnswck: 89
LGA: 88
NYC: 87
PHL: 87
BLM: 86
TTN: 86
ACY: 84
ISP: 83
JFK: 81

it's good to see we all made it into the 80s!!

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I just saw that the SST near Montauk are already up to 73!  No wonder Montauk was at 78 degrees at 4 pm! It's warmer there than it is in south NJ (69) or Fire Island (65).

Ummm what? More like 58 degrees.

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Ummm what? More like 58 degrees.

 

That's impossibly low.  Lee Goldberg on WABC reported that the SST in our areas were between 60-65 but pointed out that Montauk was the warmest at 73 and that's why the temperature there was 78 at 4 PM.  69 in S NJ.

The only place I'd imagine having a 53 degree SST would be somewhere around Greenland.

 

edit oh you wrote 58 not 53 lol, that's a little more reasonable and closer to the 60-65 temperature Lee Goldberg reported for the south shore.  But I wonder where he came up with the 73 degree SST for Montauk?

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

That's impossibly low.  Lee Goldberg on WABC reported that the SST in our areas were between 60-65 but pointed out that Montauk was the warmest at 73 and that's why the temperature there was 78 at 4 PM.  69 in S NJ.

The only place I'd imagine having a 53 degree SST would be somewhere around Greenland.

Ok so an actual water temp reading from a NDBC NOAA buoy is incorrect got it.

i was also in the ocean today at jones beach and it is most certainly 58 degrees. My friend was training for a triathlon and wearing a thermometer watch and it read 58. I’ll believe what I felt and what noaa records over what Lee Goldberg says from his office any day. 

[LibertyBell]

I would love to change the physical properties of water (its specific heat) so it would warm up and cool down much faster, like the land does.  I wonder if there's a way to change the physical properties of water, hmmmm.

 

[LibertyBell]

7 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Ok so an actual water temp reading from a NDBC NOAA buoy is incorrect got it.

i was also in the ocean today at jones beach and it is most certainly 58 degrees. My friend was training for a triathlon and wearing a thermometer watch and it read 58. I’ll believe what I felt and what noaa records over what Lee Goldberg says from his office any day. 

I thought you wrote 53 at first, 58 is closer to the lower end of the 60-65 I saw for the south shore.  I'm sure it's at least in the low 60s here, I'm quite a bit west of Jones Beach.

Goldberg must have read the wrong report, I was amazed that it was 73 and used that to explain why Montauk was so warm 80 degrees today.

IT HIT 80 DEGREES AT MONTAUK !!

 

https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/montauk/Kmtp

 

Summary

Temperature (°F)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record
High Temp	80	72	86
Low Temp	55	55.8	43
Day Average Temp	68.59	63.9	-
Precipitation (in)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record
Precipitation (past 24 hours from 04:53:00)	0.00	4.80	-
Dew Point (°F)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record
Dew Point	60.32	-	-
High	65	-	-
Low	53	-	-
Average	60.32	-	-
Wind (mph)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record
Max Wind Speed	12	-	-
Visibility	10	-	-
Sea Level Pressure (in)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record
Sea Level Pressure	30.01	-	-
Astronomy	Day Length	Rise	Set
Actual Time	15h 0m	5:17 AM	8:17 PM
Civil Twilight		4:44 AM	8:50 PM
Nautical Twilight		4:02 AM	9:33 PM
Astronomical Twilight		3:13 AM	10:22 PM
Moon: waxing gibbous		3:08 PM	2:04 AM

 

 

Daily Observations

Time	Temperature	Dew Point	Humidity	Wind	Wind Speed	Wind Gust	Pressure	Precip.	Condition
12:53 AM	57 °F	56 °F	96 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	30.01 in	0.0 in	Fair
1:53 AM	57 °F	56 °F	96 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	29.99 in	0.0 in	Fair
2:53 AM	55 °F	54 °F	96 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	29.97 in	0.0 in	Fair
3:53 AM	55 °F	54 °F	96 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	29.96 in	0.0 in	Fair
4:53 AM	55 °F	53 °F	93 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	29.96 in	0.0 in	Fair
5:53 AM	56 °F	54 °F	93 %	CALM	0 mph	0 mph	29.96 in	0.0 in	Fair
6:53 AM	62 °F	59 °F	90 %	WSW	3 mph	0 mph	29.97 in	0.0 in	Fair
7:53 AM	67 °F	61 °F	81 %	VAR	5 mph	0 mph	29.97 in	0.0 in	Fair
8:53 AM	71 °F	62 °F	73 %	SW	7 mph	0 mph	29.97 in	0.0 in	Fair
9:53 AM	72 °F	62 °F	71 %	SW	7 mph	0 mph	29.96 in	0.0 in	Fair
10:53 AM	73 °F	62 °F	68 %	SW	8 mph	0 mph	29.95 in	0.0 in	Fair
11:53 AM	75 °F	63 °F	66 %	WSW	6 mph	0 mph	29.93 in	0.0 in	Fair
12:53 PM	75 °F	62 °F	64 %	SW	12 mph	0 mph	29.92 in	0.0 in	Fair
1:53 PM	79 °F	64 °F	60 %	WSW	12 mph	0 mph	29.90 in	0.0 in	Fair
2:53 PM	80 °F	64 °F	58 %	SW	8 mph	0 mph	29.89 in	0.0 in	Fair
3:53 PM	80 °F	65 °F	60 %	WSW	7 mph	0 mph	29.87 in	0.0 in	Fair
4:53 PM	78 °F	65 °F	64 %	WSW	8 mph	0 mph	29.87 in	0.0 in	Fair
5:53 PM	78 °F	64 °F	62 %	SW	10 mph	0 mph	29.86 in	0.0 in	Fair

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Ok so an actual water temp reading from a NDBC NOAA buoy is incorrect got it.

i was also in the ocean today at jones beach and it is most certainly 58 degrees. My friend was training for a triathlon and wearing a thermometer watch and it read 58. I’ll believe what I felt and what noaa records over what Lee Goldberg says from his office any day. 

How far offshore is that buoy? Montauk reached a high of 80 today on a SW wind.....

 

[LibertyBell]

https://www.seatemperature.org/north-america/united-states/jamaica.htm#:~:text=The graph below shows the,historical sea surface temperature data.&text=The warmest water temperature is,°F %2F 4.4°C.

 

(Today) 5^th Jun 2025

16.9°C / 62.4°F

https://www.seatemperature.org/north-america/united-states/east-atlantic-beach.htm

East Atlantic Beach Water Temperature

 

(Today) 5^th Jun 2025

17°C / 62.6°F

[nycwinter]

a lot of creepy bugs outside my window tonight in this very uncomfortable humid night for early june.

[Rjay]

Finally dropped below 80 in the Park and still 80 at LGA and EWR.  

 

69 here and feels warm

[Wxoutlooksblog]

I now do not think we'll see a 90 at Central Park before June 18th and probably not until after the 23rd if in June at all.

WX/PT

[LoboLeader1]

Topped out @ 91 here yesterday. 

[Sundog]

Low of 71 this morning. Boo

[bluewave]

19 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I like trying to make connections and I can't help but feel that the warming of the West Pac and the West Atl is causing high pressures in the western basins to migrate further north causing a feedback mechanism that is resulting in these stuck patterns.  I think this will only change when we see a massive melting of the ice caps and an influx of cooler water into these basins, which, ironically enough might reset everything to the old pattern (at a higher level.)

Nature does self regulate through feedback mechanisms even though it might do it in a way we don't want it to.

It could very well be a feedback process causing these big ridge expansions further north than we used to get back in the old days. These very strong ridges to the east of New England have been the norm. So the 500 mb ridges warm the waters below and the warmer waters could promote stronger 500mb ridges. Plus there could be remote teleconnections involved from marine heatwaves closer to the equator.

Our first 90° Heat of the season is following a familiar theme. The mid 90s major heat missed our area to the north. So the record heat for June 5th was up in Maine and New Hampshire. This was the 2nd year in a row with record early June heat in those areas.

Even closer to home, Danbury was 3° warmer than Newark in more over the top to the north fashion.

So not sure what caused the comments that the temperature anomaly charts were showing too much red to our north. They turned out to be correct. Augusta Maine had a record high of 92° which was a +20. Newark at 90° was only a +12°.

 

TEMPERATURE (F)                                                          
 YESTERDAY                                                           
  MAXIMUM         92R  2:21 PM  88    2024  72     20       88        

TEMPERATURE (F)                                                          
 YESTERDAY                                                           
  MAXIMUM         90    428 PM  95    2021  78     12       81     

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAY ME
0409 AM EDT FRI JUN 06 2025

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT AUGUSTA...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT AUGUSTA 
YESTERDAY, JUNE 5TH. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 88 DEGREES SET IN 
2024.

 

Data for June 5, 2025 through June 5, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NH	ROCHESTER SKYHAVEN AP	WBAN	96
ME	FRYEBURG EASTERN SLOPES REGL AP	WBAN	95
NH	MANCHESTER AIRPORT	WBAN	94
NH	LEBANON MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	93
ME	AUGUSTA STATE AIRPORT	WBAN	92

 

Data for June 5, 2025 through June 5, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	93
CT	DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	93
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	91
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	90
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	90
NY	MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP	WBAN	90

 

[Sundog]

Is there smoke in the sky? The color of the Sun looks off. 

[Dark Star]

11 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

5 pm update Central Park reached 87 and the AQI peaked at 161 which is bad for EVERYONE.  They said that the Canadian wildfire smoke wasn't just in the upper atmosphere but made it down close to the ground too which added to the problem with ground level ozone which we had since yesterday.

My high was 85 here and 91 inside my house so I turned on my a/c at 4:30

I had assumed that the Canadian Smoke was a major contributor to the Air Quality index.

[TWCCraig]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Is there smoke in the sky? The color of the Sun looks off. 

Not as much as the other day thankfully. Some of it is near surface

[Dark Star]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Is there smoke in the sky? The color of the Sun looks off. 

 

[SACRUS]

 

74 / 65  clouds to the lest , clouds to the right stuck in the middle with some sun.  Warm / humid clouds are lined up to arrive later this afternoon capping most in the mid - upper 80s, but with enough sun could see a stray 90 or two (readings).  Some isolated / scattered shower - storms later.  Moving into another 72 - 96 hours of mainly grey / cloudy with chance of showers /storms each of the next 4 days   Fri - Mon / Tue AM.  Front / boundary slow to clear and hang by the area and coast eventually through Tuesday.  

Clear out Wed and warm up to / with the next shot at some 1-2 days heat Thu (6/12) / Fri (6/13) befor next front come through timing - weekend 6/14.  Beyond there overall warm heat is focussed west with heights and more sustained heat heading east by the week of the 22.

 

[SACRUS]

 

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 97 (2021)
NYC: 98 (1925)
LGA: 95 (2021)
JFK: 90 (1968)


Lows:

EWR: 43 (1945)
NYC: 47 (1945)
LGA:  49 (1945)
JFK: 51 (2000) 


Historical::

1816 - The temperature reached 92 degrees at Salem MA during an early heat wave, but then plunged 49 degrees in 24 hours to commence the famous year without a summer . (David Ludlum)

1816: The temperature reached 92 degrees at Salem, Massachusetts during an early heat wave, but then plunged 49 degrees in 24 hours to commence the famous "year without a summer." Snow fell near Quebec City, Quebec Canada from the 6th through the 10th and accumulated up to a foot with "drifts reaching the axle trees of carriages." 

 

1869: Snail shells fell from the sky at Chester, PA during a rain shower. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1894 - One of the greatest floods in U.S. history occurred as the Williamette River overflowed to inundate half of the business district of Portland OR. (David Ludlum)


1894: One of the greatest floods in U.S. history occurred as the Willamette River overflowed to inundate half of the business district of Portland, Oregon. The river crested at 33.5 feet, the worst flood ever recorded in the city. 

 

1906: A tornado causing F4 damage moved east-northeast from 3 miles southwest of Caledonia, MN, crossing the Mississippi River about 12 miles south of La Crosse, WI. A mother and two children were killed as their farm near Freeburg, MN was leveled. One child was carried about half a mile. 15 people were injured in rural Minnesota homes. An F3 tornado moved east-northeast out of Winneshiek County, Iowa destroying a large brick home southeast of Newhouse, MN just inside the Minnesota border. Clothes from the home were found over three miles away. One boy was severely injured, and may have died later. He had been closing windows on the second floor when the tornado struck. Also, on this date, an F2 tornado touched down just southeast of Sparta, WI and it moved north-northeast to near the Jackson County, Wisconsin border. The worse damage was east of Angelo, where "trees and barns were torn to shreds". (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1907: A tornado causing F4 damage killed 5 people and injured 20 others in Washington County in Illinois. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1925: Boston, MA recorded its highest temperature of 100 °F and its warmest low temperature, 80 °F for the month of June. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1937: Dome Lake, MT in the Bighorn Mountains, was buried under 32 inches of snow. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1944 D-Day: What did the D stand for ?? Answer The designated Day (To keep the real date hidden) Weather played a critical role in the decision of when to invade Normandy Beach in northern France. Each element of the allied forces needed a certain type of phenomena that best suited their needs. The navy and army needed high tides so the invading soldiers would not get hung up in the water. Further inland, the paratroopers needed a moonless sky so they would not be seen. Dates in May and very early June were set which met those criteria, but were called off because of very bad weather. On the early morning on this date, the weather was once again atrocious with high winds and rain. It was either invade now, or wait until late June when all the elements of moon and tide were together again. But this would risk the Germans fortifying their positions at Normandy. So the decision was made to attack on June 6th. The waves were high, and many soldiers got sea- sick, but the mission was a success. As a matter of fact, the weather was even worse in late June for the alternate landing than it was on this date. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1953: On June 4th, the center of Tropical Storm Alice passed about 60 miles west of Dry Tortugas and moved very near parallel to west coast of Florida and passed inland a short distance west of Panama City, about noon on this date. Winds remained below hurricane force during entire history of this storm and highest winds experienced on land were 40 to 45 mph. The storm produced beneficial rainfall. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1963: Three lightning deaths occurred during the afternoon across Florida: At Tampa: Lightning killed a small child in a bathtub and lightning killed a person repairing a roof. At Lake Seminole: Lightning killed a fisherman standing on the lake bank. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1975 - A tornado, reportedly spinning backwards (spinning clockwise), was sighted near Alva, OK. (The Weather Channel)

1977 - Severe thunderstorms with large hail and winds to 100 mph caused one million dollars damage around Norfolk, VA. A forty-two foot fishing boat capsized near the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel drowning 13 of the 27 persons on board. (The Weather Channel)

 

1978: Severe thunderstorms developed along a strong cold front during the afternoon and continued into the following morning across parts of South Dakota. The storms stretched from Meade County in the west central to Roberts County in the northeast. Numerous reports of golf ball size were reported, damaging crops across the north. Thunderstorm winds also gusted to 70 mph in many areas. Total crop and property damage from the night's storms was estimated to be near $7 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1984: An unseasonable storm buried portions of the Colorado Rockies between the 5th and the 8th with as much as two feet of snow with 18 inches in 24 hours ending on the 7th at Climax. Their storm total was 22.3 inches. June storm records set included 3 inches at Eagle, 15.5 inches at Aspen, and 16 inches at Breckenridge. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)


1986: The Great Salt Lake in Utah reached its historic high water level with the surface level at 4,211.85 feet, exceeding the previous record of 4,211.60 feet by 3 inches. The previous record was set in June of 1873 before the building of any causeways or dikes.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Thunderstorms in southern California produced one inch hail at Mount Pinos, and marble size hail at Palmdale. Thunderstorms in southeastern Arizona produced heavy rain leaving some washes under four feet of water. Six cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date as readings soared into the upper 90s. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Seventeen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Williston ND with a reading of 104 degrees. Thunderstorms in Florida produced wind gusts to 65 mph which damaged two mobile homes northwest of Melbourne injuring six people. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms developing during the late morning hours produced severe weather through the afternoon and night. Thunderstorms spawned 13 tornadoes, and there were 154 reports of large hail and damaging winds. A strong (F-3) tornado injured six persons at Lorenzo, TX, and thunderstorm winds gusting to 100 mph killed one person at Glasscock City, TX. Softball size hail was reported at Lipscomb and Glen Cove TX. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1994: In west central Kansas, hail five inches in diameter knocked holes in roofs and damaged windshields and farm machinery 7 miles south of Tribune. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2001:  Feeder bands from Tropical Storm Allison dumped heavy rains over Southeast Louisiana. By the 8th, many locations from Baton Rouge south to Thibodeaux were deluged with 10 to 18 inches of rain, which produced tremendous flooding. Another round of heavy rains erupted on the 10th and 11th as Allison's remnants moved directly over the same area. By the end of the second round, up to 30 inches had fallen in the area around Thibodeaux, LA. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

2008: Strong thunderstorms pushed across southeast Illinois during the early morning, producing widespread rainfall of 3 to 7 inches. The highest total of 9.10 inches occurred south of Martinsville, in Clark County. Nearly 100 homes in the county were damaged from the resulting flash flooding, and every county road as well as portions of I-70 was closed due to high water. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2010: Tornadoes and thunderstorms tore through the Midwest USA, killing at least seven people in Ohio and triggering the automatic shutdown of a nuclear power plant in Michigan. In northwest Ohio, seven people were confirmed dead in mostly rural Lake Township south of Toledo. Severe storms caused the automatic shutdown of the Fermi 2 nuclear power plant on the shore of Lake Erie in southeast Michigan after a key area of the plant lost its power feed. Tornadoes also touched down in several locations in central Illinois around Peoria, with reports of dozens of injuries and damaged buildings.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

[bluewave]

Rainy weekends theme continues with rainy periods possible on Saturday and Sunday. Hopefully, the Euro is too fast with the rain to return on Sunday. So we can at least get some drier conditions during the day.

 

 

 

 

[SACRUS]

31 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Rainy weekends theme continues with rainy periods possible on Saturday and Sunday. Hopefully, the Euro is too fast with the rain to return on Sunday. So we can at least get some drier conditions during the day.

 

 

 

 

 

Front looks to be pegged for next weekend as well 6/14-15.