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45 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

Not in early June. Mid to upper 80s is decently above average. 

The key will be how much rain we get in early June. We probably make it back into the 80s between June 1st -10th. But we would probably need to dry out with more sun in order for the warm spots to get their first 90° of the season by June 15th. We are already running late on our first 90° day. 
 

First/Last Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Minimum 04-07 (2010) 08-08 (2011) 69
Mean 05-18 09-09 113
Maximum 06-17 (2014) 10-02 (2019) 170
2024 05-02 (2024) 90 08-28 (2024) 95 117
2023 04-13 (2023) 92 09-08 (2023) 92 147
2022 05-21 (2022) 95 09-04 (2022) 93 105
2021 05-19 (2021) 91 09-15 (2021) 91 118
2020 06-06 (2020) 91 08-27 (2020) 93 81
2019 05-26 (2019) 90 10-02 (2019) 96 128
2018 05-02 (2018) 90 09-06 (2018) 98 126
2017 05-17 (2017) 92 09-25 (2017) 90 130
2016 05-25 (2016) 91 09-23 (2016) 90 120
2015 05-25 (2015) 90 09-09 (2015) 91 106
2014 06-17 (2014) 91 09-06 (2014) 95 80
2013 05-30 (2013) 93 09-11 (2013) 96 103
2012 05-28 (2012) 91 09-07 (2012) 90 101
2011 05-30 (2011) 92 08-08 (2011) 93 69
2010 04-07 (2010) 92 09-25 (2010) 90 170
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56 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The key will be how much rain we get in early June. We probably make it back into the 80s between June 1st -10th. But we would probably need to dry out with more sun in order for the warm spots to get their first 90° of the season by June 15th. We are already running late on our first 90° day. 
 

First/Last Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Minimum 04-07 (2010) 08-08 (2011) 69
Mean 05-18 09-09 113
Maximum 06-17 (2014) 10-02 (2019) 170
2024 05-02 (2024) 90 08-28 (2024) 95 117
2023 04-13 (2023) 92 09-08 (2023) 92 147
2022 05-21 (2022) 95 09-04 (2022) 93 105
2021 05-19 (2021) 91 09-15 (2021) 91 118
2020 06-06 (2020) 91 08-27 (2020) 93 81
2019 05-26 (2019) 90 10-02 (2019) 96 128
2018 05-02 (2018) 90 09-06 (2018) 98 126
2017 05-17 (2017) 92 09-25 (2017) 90 130
2016 05-25 (2016) 91 09-23 (2016) 90 120
2015 05-25 (2015) 90 09-09 (2015) 91 106
2014 06-17 (2014) 91 09-06 (2014) 95 80
2013 05-30 (2013) 93 09-11 (2013) 96 103
2012 05-28 (2012) 91 09-07 (2012) 90 101
2011 05-30 (2011) 92 08-08 (2011) 93 69
2010 04-07 (2010) 92 09-25 (2010) 90 170

Didn't the usual warm spots already hit 90? 

I thought we did a few weeks ago when it was hot for a few days.

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3 minutes ago, Poker2015 said:

Didn't the usual warm spots already hit 90? 

I thought we did a few weeks ago when it was hot for a few days.

The warm spots topped out in the upper 80s. This delayed first 90° could mean that the warm spots like Newark could avoid a top tier summer for 90° days. The only season following a May with no 90° days  to reach 40 days of 90° highs  was 1983. But that was a super El Niño and this is a La Niña. 

If Newark can go on to avoid a very high 90° day count over 40 days, then it would probably mean a very wet and humid summer for us. Since Newark needs a dry summer for a very high number of 90° days. 

 

Data for January 1, 2025 through May 22, 2025
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OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 89
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
HARRISON COOP 88
Newark Area ThreadEx 88
TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
ESTELL MANOR COOP 87
TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP WBAN 86
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST COOP 86
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 86
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE COOP 86
CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
BELMAR FARMINGDALE ALLAIRE AP WBAN 86
SOMERSET AIRPORT WBAN 86


All years at Newark with no 90° days in May

 

Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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2025 0 0 M M M M M 0
2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31
2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15
2009 3 0 0 1 10 0 0 14
2008 0 0 6 11 2 3 0 22
2005 0 0 10 11 12 4 0 37
2003 0 0 5 8 7 0 0 20
1997 0 0 7 10 3 0 0 20
1990 2 0 5 9 9 1 0 26
1989 0 0 4 12 8 3 0 27
1984 0 0 8 6 8 0 0 22
1983 0 0 7 15 11 7 0 40
1982 0 0 1 10 1 0 0 12
1976 2 0 7 2 4 0 0 15
1973 0 0 5 9 12 5 0 31
1972 0 0 0 16 4 1 0 21
1971 0 0 6 7 7 2 0 22
1968 0 0 4 9 9 1 0 23
1967 0 0 5 1 1 0 0 7
1966 0 0 10 14 8 1 0 33
1963 0 0 6 11 3 0 0 20
1961 0 0 4 13 8 9 0 34
1960 1 0 3 2 8 1 0 15
1958 0 0 2 11 6 2 0 21
1954 0 0 5 10 3 0 0 18
1952 0 0 8 17 2 4 0 31
1950 0 0 8 6 3 1 0 18
1946 0 0 5 5 2 0 0 12
1940 0 0 2 11 1 1 0 15
1938 0 0 4 4 9 0 1 18
1935 0 0 1 11 2 0 0 14

 

 

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Through 5 pm, Bridgeport, Islip, New York City-Central Park, New York City-LaGuardia Airport, and Newark are in line to set new record low maximum temperatures for May 22. JFK Airport is in line to tie its record.

After an unseasonably cool start, temperatures will top out in upper 50s and lower 60s tomorrow in the New York City area. There could also be some scattered showers. A partly to mostly sunny Memorial Day weekend will then follow.

The below normal temperatures could persist into early next week. However,it could turn noticeably warmer during the closing days of the month or opening of June.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.1°C for the week centered around May 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.55°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was -8.71 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.091 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 62% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 63.0° (0.2° below normal).

 

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9 hours ago, bluewave said:

These +5 departures will get significantly smaller with this very cool pattern to close out the month. 
 

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No one is going to take climate change seriously with winter-type weather occurring in May lol. We all know it's happening  but people yearn for warmth this time of year.

If anything the people I've talked to said they want climate change to speed up so this kind of crap weather can't happen anymore.  They were being serious too.

 

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2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Definitely possible on top of the pocono plateau. Elevations over 2,000’. It’s been snowing and accumulating all day on top of the southern greens in Vermont.

wow this was unexpected, I'm headed there for Memorial Day weekend. Probably nothing on the ground up there though.

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3 hours ago, bluewave said:

The warm spots topped out in the upper 80s. This delayed first 90° could mean that the warm spots like Newark could avoid a top tier summer for 90° days. The only season following a May with no 90° days  to reach 40 days of 90° highs  was 1983. But that was a super El Niño and this is a La Niña. 

If Newark can go on to avoid a very high 90° day count over 40 days, then it would probably mean a very wet and humid summer for us. Since Newark needs a dry summer for a very high number of 90° days. 

 

Data for January 1, 2025 through May 22, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 89
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
HARRISON COOP 88
Newark Area ThreadEx 88
TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
ESTELL MANOR COOP 87
TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP WBAN 86
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST COOP 86
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 86
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE COOP 86
CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
BELMAR FARMINGDALE ALLAIRE AP WBAN 86
SOMERSET AIRPORT WBAN 86


All years at Newark with no 90° days in May

 

Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
2025 0 0 M M M M M 0
2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31
2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15
2009 3 0 0 1 10 0 0 14
2008 0 0 6 11 2 3 0 22
2005 0 0 10 11 12 4 0 37
2003 0 0 5 8 7 0 0 20
1997 0 0 7 10 3 0 0 20
1990 2 0 5 9 9 1 0 26
1989 0 0 4 12 8 3 0 27
1984 0 0 8 6 8 0 0 22
1983 0 0 7 15 11 7 0 40
1982 0 0 1 10 1 0 0 12
1976 2 0 7 2 4 0 0 15
1973 0 0 5 9 12 5 0 31
1972 0 0 0 16 4 1 0 21
1971 0 0 6 7 7 2 0 22
1968 0 0 4 9 9 1 0 23
1967 0 0 5 1 1 0 0 7
1966 0 0 10 14 8 1 0 33
1963 0 0 6 11 3 0 0 20
1961 0 0 4 13 8 9 0 34
1960 1 0 3 2 8 1 0 15
1958 0 0 2 11 6 2 0 21
1954 0 0 5 10 3 0 0 18
1952 0 0 8 17 2 4 0 31
1950 0 0 8 6 3 1 0 18
1946 0 0 5 5 2 0 0 12
1940 0 0 2 11 1 1 0 15
1938 0 0 4 4 9 0 1 18
1935 0 0 1 11 2 0 0 14

 

 

Does enso have any influence on summer heat? It's already back to neutral.

 

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6 hours ago, bluewave said:

Too bad this new wettest May on record at MPO wasn’t during the winter and all snow.;)

 

Time Series Summary for Mount Pocono Area, PA (ThreadEx) - Month of May
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1 2025 10.92 10
2 1989 10.58 0
3 1942 10.41 0
4 1984 9.16 0
5 1946 8.87 0
6 1919 8.32 0
7 1978 8.03 0
8 1924 7.85 0
9 1948 7.39 0
10 1988 7.33 0

crap I have to worry about basement flooding in my house there.

any river flooding issues along the Lehigh or Delaware Rivers?

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5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow this was unexpected, I'm headed there for Memorial Day weekend. Probably nothing on the ground up there though.

Best that happens there is a few mangled flakes in the air. Really need to be above 3,000’ for accumulations with such a marginal airmass. I mean it’s the end of May

heres 3850’ in southern Vermont 

 

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3 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Best that happens there is a few mangled flakes in the air. Really need to be above 3,000’ for accumulations with such a marginal airmass. I mean it’s the end of May

heres 3850’ in southern Vermont 

 

Now THIS is worth it.

I can't stand cold rain, but snow looks beautiful and feels MUCH better than cold rain too lol.

 

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Just now, LibertyBell said:

Now THIS is worth it.

I can't stand cold rain, but snow looks beautiful.

 

The trees are leafed out just below that camera at 3,000’. Could get nasty overnight. Above 3,000’ there are no deciduous trees just a mix of red spruce and balsam fir, a remnant of the borial forest that once covered the northeast after the ice age

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