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16 hours ago, CarlislePaWx said:

Oh, I forgot to mention that I was in a pretty good thunderstorm yesterday afternoon that dumped 0.21".  This was the first measurable for this month.  I'll have to go back and look at end of July to see when last precip day was.  Obviously grass all around here is getting pretty brown.

This is remarkable. I 've lost track of how many downpours we have had. i still need to cut about every 5 days. 

 

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HMMM....seems like more data reporting issues that include the NWS.

KLNS data for last couple days.  I live 5 miles from this station and received easily between 1.5-2'' in the last 2 days.  Friends to the W of this location also told me they received heavy rains both days.......and somewhere in between... .03.  yeah right.  :thumbsdown:

12 07:50 Calm 2.00 Fog/Mist VV002 72 69 72 69 91% NA NA 30.06 1017.5      
12 06:53 E 3 0.25 Fog VV002 70 67     90% NA NA 30.05 1017.3      
12 05:53 Calm 0.75 Fog/Mist CLR 71 68     90% NA NA 30.04 1017.1      
12 04:53 Calm 3.00 Fog/Mist CLR 71 68     90% NA NA 30.03 1016.6      
12 03:53 Calm 4.00 Fog/Mist CLR 72 69     91% NA NA 30.03 1016.6      
12 02:53 Calm 4.00 Fog/Mist SCT002 72 69     91% NA NA 30.03 1016.6      
12 01:53 SE 5 0.50 Fog VV002 71 68 75 71 90% NA NA 30.02 1016.0      
12 00:53 Calm 3.00 Fog/Mist CLR 73 70     90% NA NA 30.02 1016.1      
11 23:53 Calm 4.00 Fog/Mist FEW002 72 70     94% NA NA 30.03 1016.5      
11 22:53 W 3 10.00 Fair CLR 73 70     90% NA NA 30.05 1017.3      
11 21:53 Calm 10.00 Fair CLR 74 70     88% NA NA 30.06 1017.5      
11 20:53 W 7 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT014 75 71     88% NA NA 30.05 1017.1      
11 19:53 S 3 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW050 FEW070 FEW110 74 70 92 72 88% NA NA 30.04 1016.8      
11 18:53 N 6 10.00 Thunderstorm in Vicinity Light Rain BKN110 74 70     88% NA NA 30.03 1016.6      
11 17:53 NW 29 G 56 0.50 Thunderstorm Heavy Rain and Windy SCT027 BKN045 OVC055 73 65     76% NA NA 30.03 1016.6      
11 16:53 E 7 10.00 Thunderstorm in Vicinity BKN044 90 75     62% NA 101 29.96 1014.2 0.01 0.01  
11 15:53 E 5 10.00 Overcast BKN044 BKN060 OVC100 88 76     68% NA 99 29.97 1014.7      
11 14:53 S 5 10.00 Thunderstorm in Vicinity FEW060 91 75     59% NA 102 30.01 1015.7      
11 13:53 W 7 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT037 SCT046 BKN060 89 74 91 74 61% NA 98 30.02 1016.1      
11 12:53 W 5 10.00 Fair CLR 90 74     59% NA 99 30.03 1016.6      
11 11:53 W 5 10.00 Fair CLR 87 73     63% NA 94 30.04 1016.8      
11 10:53 SE 6 10.00 Fair CLR 84 73     70% NA 90 30.05 1017.1      
11 09:53 Calm 10.00 Fair CLR 79 71     77% NA 82 30.07 1017.9      
11 08:53 Calm 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW008 77 70     79% NA 79 30.08 1018.4      
11 07:53 Calm 5.00 Fair with Haze CLR 74 69 74 69 85% NA NA 30.07 1017.8      
11 06:53 SE 3 3.00 Fog/Mist CLR 70 67     90% NA NA 30.04 1017.1      
11 05:53 Calm 1.00 Fog/Mist CLR 69 66     90% NA NA 30.04 1016.8      
11 04:53 Calm 3.00 Fog/Mist CLR 70 67     90% NA NA 30.04 1017.0      
11 03:53 E 3 2.50 Fog/Mist CLR 70 67     90% NA NA 30.04 1016.8      
11 02:53 Calm 5.00 Fog/Mist CLR 71 67     87% NA NA 30.05 1017.2      
11 01:53 NE 3 5.00 Fog/Mist CLR 71 68 73 71 90% NA NA 30.06 1017.3      
11 00:53 E 3 6.00 Fog/Mist CLR 71 68     90% NA NA 30.07 1017.9      
10 23:53 Calm 6.00 Fog/Mist CLR 72 68     87% NA NA 30.08 1018.3      
10 22:53 Calm 10.00 Fair CLR 72 69     91% NA NA 30.09 1018.8      
10 21:53 Calm 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT070 72 69     91% NA NA 30.09 1018.5      
10 20:53 NE 5 10.00 Fair CLR 73 69     87% NA NA 30.04 1016.8      
10 19:53 S 10 7.00 Thunderstorm Light Rain SCT095 BKN120 72 68 92 72 87% NA NA 30.06 1017.4      
10 18:53 NW 33 G 59 0.50 Thunderstorm Heavy Rain Fog Squalls and Windy SCT005 OVC055 72 68     87% NA NA 30.07 1017.9 0.02    
10 17:53 E 8 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN039 BKN049 BKN060 86 73     65% NA 93 30.02 1016.1      
10 16:53 E 6 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT047 SCT060 88 70     55% NA 93 30.03 1016.4      
10 15:53 S 7 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW045 BKN050 BKN070 91 70     50% NA 97 30.03 1016.5      
10 14:53 S 12 G 16 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW042 SCT055 91 71     52% NA 98 30.05 1017.3      
10 13:53 S 6 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT046 89 71 91 76 55% NA 95 30.07 1017.9      
10 12:53 Calm 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT034 87 71     59% NA 93 30.11 1019.1      
10 11:53 Calm 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT075 85 72     65% NA 91 30.13 1019.9      
10 10:53 Calm 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN017 83 72     70% NA 88 30.14 1020.3      
10 09:53 S 6 8.00 Overcast OVC014 80 72     76% NA 84 30.14 1020.1      
10 08:53 SE 6 5.00 Mostly Cloudy with Haze FEW008 BKN014 78 73     85% NA 80 30.13 1020.1      
10 07:53 SE 5 3.00 Fog/Mist OVC015 76 72 76 72 88% NA 76 30.13 1020.1      
10 06:53 E 3 4.00 Fog/Mist OVC013 75 71     88% NA NA 30.14 1020.3      
10 05:53 E 3 5.00 Fog/Mist OVC009 74 70     88% NA NA 30.13 1019.8      
10 04:53 E 5 6.00 Fog/Mist OVC008 74 70     88% NA NA 30.12 1019.7      
10 03:53 E 3 6.00 Fog/Mist OVC009 73 69     87% NA NA 30.11 1019.3      
10 02:53 E 5 6.00 Fog/Mist CLR 72 68     87% NA NA 30.12 1019.6      
10 01:53 E 5 8.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW060 BKN095 73 69 80 73 87% NA NA 30.13 1020.0      
10 00:53 E 5 9.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN065 73 68     84% NA NA 30.15 1020.5      
09 23:53 E 6 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT060 74 69     85% NA NA 30.14 1020.4      
09 22:53 E 6 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW075 SCT090 75 69     82% NA NA 30.14 1020.2  
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@pasnownut doesn't look like that would even be possible - on both days, there were hourly obs of heavy rain, and on both days an additional hourly observation of light rain. How heavy rain only produced .01" yesterday...meh. 

I received .89" for the past 2 days, and a lot of areas surrounding me did better. Far better. 

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1 hour ago, losetoa6 said:

It was 70 when I left this morning.  Not too bad . Usually overnight lows stay in the low mid 70s when mby makes a run at upper 90s but well see . Yesterday hi 94

I saw 70-71 on car themo...

I also agree that when overnight lows don't get below 70 that normal diurnal heating with no major adjustments to pattern makes a run at 90+ pretty easily achieved here in LSV.  Looking forward to the cool down this weekend.  

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1 hour ago, losetoa6 said:

It was 70 when I left this morning.  Not too bad . Usually overnight lows stay in the low mid 70s when mby makes a run at upper 90s but well see . Yesterday hi 94

 

Just now, pasnownut said:

I saw 70-71 on car themo...

I also agree that when overnight lows don't get below 70 that normal diurnal heating with no major adjustments to pattern makes a run at 90+ pretty easily achieved here in LSV.  Looking forward to the cool down this weekend.  

I started yesterday at 70...thought it would be a stretch to reach 95, as most really hot days start off closer to the mid 70s. Anyway, I was at 97 by 2:45pm when the clouds moved in ahead of the first storm. I thought it was very impressive to get that high starting off at 70. Absent that mid-afternoon storm, I would have approached 100 yesterday.

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8 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

@pasnownut doesn't look like that would even be possible - on both days, there were hourly obs of heavy rain, and on both days an additional hourly observation of light rain. How heavy rain only produced .01" yesterday...meh. 

I received .89" for the past 2 days, and a lot of areas surrounding me did better. Far better. 

agreed.  if you look at hourly obs....heavy rain w/ no qpf raises ones eyebrow....or should.  Trust me....both days had at LEAST 20-30 min of mod/heavy steady rain.  Last evening closer to 1 hr.  I'm callin foul....

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6 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

 

I started yesterday at 70...thought it would be a stretch to reach 95, as most really hot days start off closer to the mid 70s. Anyway, I was at 97 by 2:45pm when the clouds moved in ahead of the first storm. I thought it was very impressive to get that high starting off at 70. Absent that mid-afternoon storm, I would have approached 100 yesterday.

Thats funny.  I thought w/ the early sun and visible satellite showing little to no clouds, that we were going to run a good number for yesterday...and we did.  Although i was surprised on way home from office, that temps were only in 85-88 range on car thermo (w/ partly sunny skies).  

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6 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

 

I started yesterday at 70...thought it would be a stretch to reach 95, as most really hot days start off closer to the mid 70s. Anyway, I was at 97 by 2:45pm when the clouds moved in ahead of the first storm. I thought it was very impressive to get that high starting off at 70. Absent that mid-afternoon storm, I would have approached 100 yesterday.

I started off yesterday with a low of 66.9 and ended up hitting 98.1 before the storm arrived.  Picked up a whopping 0.10" from it.  My low this morning was 66.7.  Today is forecast to be hotter than yesterday so I think I've got a pretty good shot at 100 (not that I'm routing that on)!

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16 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

agreed.  if you look at hourly obs....heavy rain w/ no qpf raises ones eyebrow....or should.  Trust me....both days had at LEAST 20-30 min of mod/heavy steady rain.  Last evening closer to 1 hr.  I'm callin foul....

KLNS is having issues.  Clearly not able to collect rainfall correctly at the moment.  I have multiple friends who live basically right by the airport and it completely trounced that entire area.  The station is just malfunctioning in some respect, which it is know to do from time to time.  Horst has pointed it out to them a couple times over the years as well.  Anyway, I got .54" last night.  Loving these summertime storms but man this heat today and tomorrow is going to be stifling, and my dad has me power washing for him tomorrow ugh.

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18 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

KLNS is having issues.  Clearly not able to collect rainfall correctly at the moment.  I have multiple friends who live basically right by the airport and it completely trounced that entire area.  The station is just malfunctioning in some respect, which it is know to do from time to time.  Horst has pointed it out to them a couple times over the years as well.  Anyway, I got .54" last night.  Loving these summertime storms but man this heat today and tomorrow is going to be stifling, and my dad has me power washing for him tomorrow ugh.

Then they should put disclaimer "N/A" to let people know it is not functioning because some folks could skew that for other purposes.  I'm sure the NWS uses those "totals" when making drought forecasts etc....

Just saying.  

If were all about the data.....lets get it right.  No reason for this to be an ongoing issue.  Plenty of areas around that airport to put a better weather station.

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31 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

Then they should put disclaimer "N/A" to let people know it is not functioning because some folks could skew that for other purposes.  I'm sure the NWS uses those "totals" when making drought forecasts etc....

Just saying.  

If were all about the data.....lets get it right.  No reason for this to be an ongoing issue.  Plenty of areas around that airport to put a better weather station.

Oh I completely agree.  Sadly, I wonder how intently these stations are being monitored half the time.  Sometimes it takes someone from the public (e.g. Horst) having to point it out to them for it to even be noticed, which shouldn't be the case.  So, I just checked all the WU stations directly surrounding the airport and yeah, they have all gotten 2.5"+ the last couple of days haha.

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44 minutes ago, Jns2183 said:

I’m at 82 with DP 74 already


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45 minutes later and I'm still "only" at 76...

42 minutes ago, CarlislePaWx said:

I started off yesterday with a low of 66.9 and ended up hitting 98.1 before the storm arrived.  Picked up a whopping 0.10" from it.  My low this morning was 66.7.  Today is forecast to be hotter than yesterday so I think I've got a pretty good shot at 100 (not that I'm routing that on)!

That's an impressive turnaround in temps yesterday - when did you reach 98? That was before traditional peak heating time, correct? 

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1 minute ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Oh I completely agree.  Sadly, I wonder how intently these stations are being monitored half the time.  Sometimes it takes someone from the public (e.g. Horst) having to point it out to them for it to even be noticed, which shouldn't be the case.  So, I just check all the WU stations directly surrounding the airport and yeah, they have all gotten 2.5"+ the last couple of days haha.

Obviously, not very intently at all. Shame. As you and Nut pointed out, people rely on official stations for information. Knowing that this is a reality makes me feel even better that I track/record my own personal data. (not that I would ever assume that what I receive would match LNS or MDT anyway)

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2 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

45 minutes later and I'm still "only" at 76...

That's an impressive turnaround in temps yesterday - when did you reach 98? That was before traditional peak heating time, correct? 

High temp was recorded at 3:31pm which would be within an hour of the typical time of high temps.  It was the drop in temp associated with the glancing thunderstorm that sent it down 22 degrees to 76 in under 30 minutes.  I mentioned yesterday that the heat index which was 108 dropped 30 degrees to 78.

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I have rarely seen dewpoint this high with temps this high as well. This is basically hell for me. 5 min walk and I’m drenched. Had to sit in front of a/c. But I was wearing all black. What’s astonishing is I could run in this, light color shorts, no shirt and do a few miles easy


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