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Iso SVR late today, with a wind event Friday (mainly 2P Fri-2A Sat 4/30-5/1)


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54 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

why wouldnt there be a secondary maximum over the coastal regions, which are flat?  I thought it was puzzling the High Wind Warning was to our west.

 

 

54 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

why wouldnt there be a secondary maximum over the coastal regions, which are flat?  I thought it was puzzling the High Wind Warning was to our west.

 

Max wind field to the w of NYC.  That is where the 3K NAM has the core of the wind. 

Added 12z 3K NAM 850MB wind forecast 18z/30, and 03z/1.  I think it still be unstable through midnight. Power outages should increase. 

 

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Saw what could have been a very narrow, cone shaped rain shaft?  Any sightings of a tornado what appears to be around Newark, from my vantage point in Garwood (central Union County NJ)?   I took some video, but it is not very discernible.  Looked like it became two vortices?  Again, I could be greatly mistaken.

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10 hours ago, Dark Star said:

Saw what could have been a very narrow, cone shaped rain shaft?  Any sightings of a tornado what appears to be around Newark, from my vantage point in Garwood (central Union County NJ)?   I took some video, but it is not very discernible.  Looked like it became two vortices?  Again, I could be greatly mistaken.

I just saw the same thing at 7:20 PM we had a storm move in which produced very small hail. I noticed a very noticeable lowering towards the west around the newark bay. 

Thats when i got a better view and saw a cone shaped cloud. I took a photo but is really low quality so my apologies in advance.

Couldn't tell if it was rotating as Im blind as a bat. It's probably nothing but then again, it really did have that look...Don't think we'll ever know

 

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8 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

I just saw the same thing at 7:20 PM we had a storm move in which produced very small hail. I noticed a very noticeable lowering towards the west around the newark bay. 

Thats when i got a better view and saw a cone shaped cloud. I took a photo but is really low quality so my apologies in advance.

Couldn't tell if it was rotating as Im blind as a bat. It's probably nothing but then again, it really did have that look...Don't think we'll ever know

 

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could you have driven towards it to see what it was?

looks intriguing

 

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15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

could you have driven towards it to see what it was?

looks intriguing

 

It was either over or across the newark bay and moving fast to the southeast which would be left in the picture. 

These cells were weird...they looked like passing showers on radar, but looked really convective in person with some nice structures

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Good Saturday morning.  I'm awaiting some final reports.  Max wind gusts appeared for the most part prior to 8PM tho there was a second surge during the night with MPO, and our home in Wantage (among possibly others) maxing out between midnight and 4A today.  I didn't check ACARS soundings from yesterday, so am unsure why it seemed to me the wind overpreformed a bit during Friday afternoon but have seen this before, where the sounding lapse rate transfer finds more wind that wasn't obviously modeled.  Probably some unknowns (to me)  going on with transfer.  In any case, NAM/GFS/EC modeling I think had a good handle on general areas of concern NYC west.  I was disappointed in the RGEM/GGEM runup to this event.  Next up: see May thread. 

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48 minutes ago, wdrag said:

Good Saturday morning.  I'm awaiting some final reports.  Max wind gusts appeared for the most part prior to 8PM tho there was a second surge during the night with MPO, and our home in Wantage (among possibly others) maxing out between midnight and 4A today.  I didn't check ACARS soundings from yesterday, so am unsure why it seemed to me the wind overpreformed a bit during Friday afternoon but have seen this before, where the sounding lapse rate transfer finds more wind that wasn't obviously modeled.  Probably some unknowns (to me)  going on with transfer.  In any case, NAM/GFS/EC modeling I think had a good handle on general areas of concern NYC west.  I was disappointed in the RGEM/GGEM runup to this event.  Next up: see May thread. 

Yeah, I have noticed this also. It seems to happen when the top of the mixed layer gets near 700mb. The peak wind gusts often run about 5 to 10 KT higher than strongest surface to 700mb level forecast sounding winds. The afternoon peak gusts around NYC occurred near the time of the convection moving through. The Manhattan Mesonet rooftop sensor gusted to 60 mph at 2:20 then had .01 of rain at 2:35.

http://www.nysmesonet.org/weather/meteogram#network=nysm&stid=manh

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More data to show timing, max G, in our forum.  Timing was decent as the modeled outcome, maybe a little robust NYC than I would have expected, which means other forecast gust sources were a little shy for NYC including HRRR, SPC HREF and the previously mentioned RGEM/GGEM, even the EC. 

000
NOUS41 KOKX 011134
PNSOKX
CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-012334-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
734 AM EDT SAT MAY 1 2021

...HIGHEST WIND REPORTS...

LOCATION                     SPEED     TIME/DATE       PROVIDER             

...CONNECTICUT...

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...
GREENWICH                    60 MPH    0300 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
BRIDGEPORT AIRPORT           48 MPH    0506 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
NORWALK                      45 MPH    1029 AM 04/30   CWOP                 

...NEW HAVEN COUNTY...
NEW HAVEN                    55 MPH    1235 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
LIGHTHOUSE POINT             52 MPH    0357 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
HAMMONASSET                  46 MPH    0628 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
WATERBURY AIRPORT            45 MPH    0612 PM 04/30   AWOS                 

...NEW JERSEY...

...BERGEN COUNTY...
TETERBORO AIRPORT            49 MPH    0400 PM 04/30   ASOS                 

...ESSEX COUNTY...
CALDWELL                     46 MPH    1039 PM 04/30   ASOS                 

...HUDSON COUNTY...
BAYONNE                      50 MPH    0108 AM 05/01   WXFLOW               
HARRISON                     45 MPH    0540 PM 04/30   AWS                  

...UNION COUNTY...
NEWARK AIRPORT               53 MPH    1208 PM 04/30   ASOS                 

...NEW YORK...

...BRONX COUNTY...
FORDHAM                      45 MPH    1250 AM 05/01   NYSM                 

...KINGS COUNTY...
BROOKLYN COLLEGE             49 MPH    1235 PM 04/30   NYSM                 

...NASSAU COUNTY...
BAYVILLE                     53 MPH    0743 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
WANTAGH                      47 MPH    0245 PM 04/30   NYSM                 
MERRICK                      46 MPH    0445 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
0.8 NW UNIONDALE             45 MPH    1220 AM 05/01   MESOWEST             

...NEW YORK COUNTY...
MIDTOWN MANHATTAN            60 MPH    0220 PM 04/30   NYSM                 

...ORANGE COUNTY...
STEWART AIRPORT              46 MPH    0645 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
MONTGOMERY AIRPORT           45 MPH    0257 PM 04/30   AWOS                 

...PUTNAM COUNTY...
BREWSTER                     45 MPH    0510 PM 04/30   NYSM                 

...QUEENS COUNTY...
NYC/LA GUARDIA               61 MPH    0412 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
KEW GARDEN HILLS             57 MPH    0225 PM 04/30   NYSM                 
NYC/JFK AIRPORT              51 MPH    0607 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
JACKSON HEIGHTS              51 MPH    1228 AM 05/01   CWOP                 

...RICHMOND COUNTY...
2 SE ELIZABETH               56 MPH    1230 AM 05/01   NDBC                 
COLLEGE OF STATEN ISLAND     49 MPH    0540 PM 04/30   NYSM                 

...ROCKLAND COUNTY...
SUFFERN                      46 MPH    1155 PM 04/30   NYSM                 

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
EATONS NECK                  66 MPH    1057 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
STONY BROOK                  65 MPH    0342 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
BAITING HOLLOW               52 MPH    1030 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
GREAT GULL ISLAND            50 MPH    0131 AM 05/01   WXFLOW               
WESTHAMPTON AIRPORT          48 MPH    1102 AM 04/30   ASOS                 
SHIRLEY AIRPORT              47 MPH    0350 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
FIRE ISLAND CG               46 MPH    0258 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
ISLIP AIRPORT                45 MPH    0820 PM 04/30   ASOS                 

...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...
TAPPAN ZEE LIGHT 14          54 MPH    0858 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
WHITE PLAINS AIRPORT         49 MPH    0934 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
CROTON                       45 MPH    0347 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               

...MARITIME STATIONS...

...CONNECTICUT...
2 SSE NEW HAVEN              52 MPH    0524 PM 04/30   NOS-PORTS            
STONGINGTON OUTER BREAKWATER 52 MPH    0243 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
1 ESE NORWALK                48 MPH    0755 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
2 S GROTON                   48 MPH    0640 PM 04/30   NDBC                 

...NEW JERSEY...
JERSEY CITY                  65 MPH    0553 PM 04/30   CWOP                 

...NEW YORK...
ROBBINS REEF, NJ             62 MPH    1112 PM 04/30   NOS-PORTS            
POINT O WOODS YC             55 MPH    0302 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
SHINNECOCK                   53 MPH    0414 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
15 S ATLANTIC BEACH          49 MPH    0110 AM 05/01   NDBC                 
MANHATTAN DWNTWN             49 MPH    0958 AM 04/30   AWOS                 
26 SSE ROBERT MOSES STATE PA 49 MPH    0230 AM 05/01   NDBC                 
LARCHMONT HARBOR             46 MPH    0845 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
KINGS POINT                  45 MPH    1124 PM 04/30   NOS-NWLON            
19 SSE EAST HAMPTON          45 MPH    0100 AM 05/01   NDBC                 
&&

My max gust occurred in Wantage at 340AM, 40 MPH.  Tree split next door. 

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, I have noticed this also. It seems to happen when the top of the mixed layer gets near 700mb. The peak wind gusts often run about 5 to 10 KT higher than strongest surface to 700mb level forecast sounding winds. The afternoon peak gusts around NYC occurred near the time of the convection moving through. The Manhattan Mesonet rooftop sensor gusted to 60 mph at 2:20 then had .01 of rain at 2:35.

http://www.nysmesonet.org/weather/meteogram#network=nysm&stid=manh

there were two big squalls with blinding rain and hail here in SW Nassau, one around 1 PM and the other right at sunset, my house was shaking, they must've been around 60 MPH, were winds that high recorded at JFK and how much rain/hail was recorded?

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Adding PHI max gusts now...  just updated. 

Public Information Statement
 National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
 1105 AM EDT Sat May 1 2021
 
 ...HIGHEST WIND REPORTS...
 
 Location                     Speed     Time/Date       Provider             
 
 ...Delaware...
 
 ...Kent County...
 Dover                        46 MPH    0601 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...New Castle County...
 Wilmington                   52 MPH    1108 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 
 ...Sussex County...
 Lewes NOS                    59 MPH    1054 PM 04/30   NOS-NWLON            
 1 WNW Lewes                  57 MPH    0618 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 Dewey Beach                  55 MPH    0632 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Georgetown                   46 MPH    0750 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 Delmar, DE-Gumboro           46 MPH    0800 PM 04/30   DEOS2                
 
 ...Maryland...
 
 ...Queen Anne`s County...
 Grasonville                  47 MPH    0525 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 
 ...Talbot County...
 Easton Newnam                46 MPH    1055 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...New Jersey...
 
 ...Atlantic County...
 Atlantic City International  64 MPH    0519 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 Pleasantville Point          51 MPH    0629 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Atlantic City                49 MPH    1145 AM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Mullica Twp.                 47 MPH    0510 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 
 ...Burlington County...
 Moorestown                   55 MPH    0145 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 2 SW Rancocas                55 MPH    0145 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 McGuire AFB                  54 MPH    0159 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...Camden County...
 Pennsauken                   52 MPH    0135 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 
 ...Cape May County...
 Cape May                     56 MPH    1017 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Cape May                     49 MPH    0630 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 Dennis Twp.                  47 MPH    0525 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Sea Isle City                45 MPH    0531 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Woodbine                     45 MPH    0615 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Woodbine Muni                45 MPH    0623 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...Cumberland County...
 Fortesque                    56 MPH    1000 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Millville                    47 MPH    0555 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 
 ...Hunterdon County...
 Pittstown                    50 MPH    0345 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Readington                   45 MPH    0459 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...Mercer County...
 Trenton                      49 MPH    0143 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 
 ...Middlesex County...
 Perth Amboy                  51 MPH    0505 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 
 ...Monmouth County...
 Port Monmouth                53 MPH    0500 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Belmar Farmdale              52 MPH    0510 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 Keyport                      48 MPH    0430 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Monmouth                     48 MPH    0213 AM 05/01   WXFLOW               
 Sea Girt                     47 MPH    0540 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 
 ...Ocean County...
 2 SSW Barnegat Light         67 MPH    0529 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 Beach Haven                  59 MPH    0601 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Rutgers                      59 MPH    0602 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 3 NNW Barnegat Light         58 MPH    0234 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 4 ESE Lanoka Harbor          58 MPH    0234 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 4 SE Mystic Island           58 MPH    0559 PM 04/30   Mesonet              
 Tuckerton                    58 MPH    0559 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Trixies                      54 MPH    0236 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Mantoloking                  54 MPH    0404 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Harvey Cedars                53 MPH    0505 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Lakehurst NAS                51 MPH    0247 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 Seaside Heights              50 MPH    0340 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 Toms River                   49 MPH    0249 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 North Beach Haven            48 MPH    0600 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Surf City                    48 MPH    0246 AM 05/01   CWOP                 
 North Beach Haven            47 MPH    0100 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Island Heights               46 MPH    0425 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Point Pleasant               45 MPH    0120 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 
 ...Somerset County...
 Somerville                   46 MPH    0127 AM 05/01   ASOS                 
 
 ...Sussex County...
 Wallkill River Nwr           50 MPH    0556 PM 04/30   RAWS                 
 
 ...Warren County...
 Stewartsville                45 MPH    0500 PM 04/30   NJWXNET              
 
 ...Pennsylvania...
 
 ...Berks County...
 Fleetwood                    62 MPH    1245 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 Reading Regional Airport     54 MPH    1226 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 Lenhartsville                48 MPH    0303 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 
 ...Bucks County...
 Nockamixon                   51 MPH    0435 PM 04/30   WXFLOW               
 Doylestown                   47 MPH    0441 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 Newbold NOS                  46 MPH    0348 PM 04/30   NOS-PORTS            
 Newtown                      45 MPH    0135 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 
 ...Chester County...
 White Clay Creek West Grove- 52 MPH    0505 PM 04/30   DEOS2                
 Atglen                       46 MPH    0459 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 West Chester                 45 MPH    0302 PM 04/30   AWOS                 
 
 ...Delaware County...
 Thornton                     48 MPH    0557 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 
 ...Lehigh County...
 Whitehall Twp                51 MPH    0505 PM 04/30   Trained Spotter      
 Lehigh Valley Intl Airport   49 MPH    0423 PM 04/30   ASOS                 
 Macungie                     45 MPH    0300 PM 04/30   CWOP                 
 
 ...Monroe County...
 Mt. Pocono                   55 MPH    0253 AM 05/01   ASOS                 
 
 ...Montgomery County...
 King of Prussia              55 MPH    0140 PM 04/30   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Northampton County...
 Forks Twp                    61 MPH    0445 PM 04/30   Trained Spotter      
 North Catasauqua             54 MPH    0500 PM 04/30   Trained Spotter      
 
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