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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

I still think a short duration but heavy squall type upslope event will take place this evening and tonight north of I89.

Even the global models have some decent QPF, with the meso-models up around 0.4-0.6". 

I think the speed has the QPF over-done and some of that convective looking stuff is likely graupel, but 3-6" tonight at the northern Green ski areas seems likely.

12z GFS still with 0.3-0.4" for Spine.

I just took a look at some of the models, and every one I saw has something in the range of 0.2” to 0.5” of liquid or so.  I haven’t seen too much discussion from the BTV NWS, but we’ll see what they say in their update this afternoon.  It should be firing up this afternoon though, so now all we just sit back, let the Northern Greens do their thing, and see how much of a refresher Mother Nature wants to give us for the slopes. 

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Aside from skier traffic areas, surfaces were already in decent shape from this past week’s snows based on what we found yesterday at Stowe, so this will hopefully be some additional icing on the cake.

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50 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

I just took a look at some of the models, and every one I saw has something in the range of 0.2” to 0.5” of liquid or so.  I haven’t seen too much discussion from the BTV NWS, but we’ll see what they say in their update this afternoon.  It should be firing up this afternoon though, so now all we just sit back, let the Northern Greens do their thing, and see how much of a refresher Mother Nature wants to give us for the slopes. 

 

Aside from skier traffic areas, surfaces were already in decent shape from this past week’s snows based on what we found yesterday at Stowe, so this will hopefully be some additional icing on the cake.

I have a question for your extensive Bolton knowledge.  I was up at lodge Friday evening for a birthday gathering.  I hadn't been there for years.  I know that there are extensive property holdings, nearly 3,000 acres if I remember correctly.  Do they not own the land to the left (NW, I think) of the hotel?  It seems they could have some nice runs in that area or is that part of the back country area?

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11 minutes ago, mreaves said:

I have a question for your extensive Bolton knowledge.  I was up at lodge Friday evening for a birthday gathering.  I hadn't been there for years.  I know that there are extensive property holdings, nearly 3,000 acres if I remember correctly.  Do they not own the land to the left (NW, I think) of the hotel?  It seems they could have some nice runs in that area or is that part of the back country area?

That’s part of the backcountry area – over 1,000 acres of it was purchased by the Vermont Land Trust back in 2012 because there was concern of what would happen (potentially lost access) if it was purchased by a private buyer.  It’s a great local grassroots success story:

https://www.boltonvalley.com/about-us/press-room/bolton-valley-signs-contract-to-sell-1161-acres-of-nordic-and-backcountry-terrain-28

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Been snowing hard off and on all day at Jay.  Tram was closed. Hiked up there, rode the face chutes skisrs right of the tram.  It was icy until I got into the tree and scree below the steep exposed section.  Would have rather not taken the whole ridge up and gone down earlier skiers right of the tram.  I think the snow would have held better there.  Solo so didnt mess with the dip or big Jay.  

 

Hard to tell how much they recieved since last evening but probably another 6-7 on top of yesterdsys ~4".  Made for really fast powder.

Edit^: that might be a bit high for earlier today, it was hard to tell.

 

Picture: Big Jay from top of tram around 3pm.  Snowing hard again, it had cleared out slightly when I reached the summit of Jay which was nice.  Winds were ripping at 3900'. 

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With windholds at Smuggs and Bolton today, ended up at Stowe. Only took 3 runs outside of the Lookout to Goat range. Woods were unbelievable. Hope Madonna is open tomorrow, they've gotten 7" since the last time it opened and hoping for a few inches tonight. Been snowing at Stowe since 1:30.

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BTV with a short fuse Winter Weather Advisory this evening...

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.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/...
As of 857 PM EDT Monday...Ended up issuing a small winter
weather advisory for areas where the snow just won`t seem to let
up across parts of Northern Vermont. As base of trough drops
into our area, snowfall has become enhanced. Snowfall totals
will range from 3 to 6 inches with localized higher amounts.
Previous discussion follows.

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Event totals: 4.2” Snow/0.31” L.E.

 

From what I’ve seen, the current upslope snow is part of the back side of Winter Storm Taylor, so I’m still rolling totals into that system.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 2.7 inches

New Liquid: 0.14 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 19.3

Snow Density: 5.2% H2O

Temperature: 28.0 F

Sky:  Flurries

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

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Looked like 3"-4" at home and still snowing when I left.  Pretty high fluff factor after the dense stuff that was falling earlier yesterday.

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Just under an inch for us.  Enough to cover up the yellow and brown snow for a few hours.

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3 hours ago, alex said:

Snowing very nicely this morning with fat flakes. About 3" plus the 3.5 we got from the storm so made it over the 6" mark

What's you season total? John up in Pittsburg is at 195". Awesome winter up there

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This morning was my best morning on the hill.  Place was empty ghost town for 8" overnight.  Love these upslope events that don't bring the crowds... no named Noreaster, no media hype with TWC posting snow maps...just lots of pow for those that sort-of pay attention.

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54 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

This morning was my best morning on the hill.  Place was empty ghost town for 8" overnight.  Love these upslope events that don't bring the crowds... no named Noreaster, no media hype with TWC posting snow maps...just lots of pow for those that sort-of pay attention.

It was curiously empty up here too PF

Seemed everyone new each other in the line up for first chairs. Seasons are changing as the topic of the morning revolved around boiling :)

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2.0" of surprise upslope fluff here this morning. Still flurrying even now. I really didn't think I'd get in on any of the action down here, but alas we did. 

Measuring was a pain due to the wind and fluffy nature of the snow, but 2.0" was the average with a range from 1" to 3.5".

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8 hours ago, powderfreak said:

The orographic lift came through last night.  That's for sure.

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25 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Call it 117" on the ground up top at the MMNV1 Co-Op stake.

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So is that the official or is it your 3500’ stake? 

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10 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

So is that the official or is it your 3500’ stake? 

That’s the official Mt. Mansfield Stake, which is at about 3,700’ as far as I know.  PF’s upper measurement stake for the resort is at around 3,000’ I believe.

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Just now, J.Spin said:

That’s the official Mt. Mansfield Stake, which is at about 3,700’ as far as I know.  PF’s upper measurement stake for the resort is at around 3,000’ I believe.

Thanks, that’s what I figured. Pretty sweet pack there.

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21-24" past 48 hours at Jay as of 8am.  Today was amazing.  They hit 30ft season total by 8am this morning, it snowed all day with the sun peaking through off and on.

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Thanks, that’s what I figured. Pretty sweet pack there.

Yup.  The snowpack around here is pretty solid.  Skiing is such that literally everything on the ground is buried, so it makes ripping pow in the glades pretty easy when all the brush and deadfall is covered up.

With nearly 5 feet on the ground at 1,500ft and nearly 10 feet at 3,700ft...you are skiing quite a bit off the ground in the woods.

Some shots from today...

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