Ginx snewx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Kevin waters his way to dews 5-10 higher than everyone else...lol.lol I have a sweatshirt on watching Women's championship night less than 10 miles south as the crow flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 How do you have a dew point of 66? That's the highest in all of New England and much higher than coastal locations and places like BID, ACK, and MVY which are basically sitting in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and even they have dews <60.Ask the designer of the Davis 2. Perhaps he can share the algorithms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 How do you have a dew point of 66? That's the highest in all of New England and much higher than coastal locations and places like BID, ACK, and MVY which are basically sitting in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and even they have dews <60. could be accurate if his station is located near a lot of vegetation, especially in the evening once mixing decreases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 could be accurate if his station is located near a lot of vegetation, especially in the evening once mixing decreases Right...but we've been over this before. That dewpoint is not representative of the general airmass...even in his area. It's a micro-siting issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 could be accurate if his station is located near a lot of vegetation, especially in the evening once mixing decreasesDing ding ding. Finally someone who gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Right...but we've been over this before. That dewpoint is not representative of the general airmass...even in his area. It's a micro-siting issue. oh for sure, its just representative of his backyard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Finally . Oh Dear Lord thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 oh for sure, its just representative of his backyard lol More like a mulch bed. It's completely unrealistic of his neighborhood even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 WhAt are other dews in Town on meso map right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 lol, Dews in the mid 60's, We maxed out at 77F temp and 61F dew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 WhAt are other dews in Town on meso map right now? The 3 I see say 62, 61, and 53. http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KCTTOLLA6 http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KCTTOLLA12 http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KCTTOLLA17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Readings may be instantaneously accurate for the air around the sensor but it doesn't mean it represents the overall picture. It's like putting a bare sensor out in the sun and having it read 100° while everyone around is 80°. It's accurate at the sensor for its siting and conditions but that doesn't mean it's 100° there. If you surround your hygrometer sensor with vegetation, the humidity reading is going to go up and that will raise the dew point calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Readings may be instantaneously accurate for the air around the sensor but it doesn't mean it represents the overall picture. It's like putting a bare sensor out in the sun and having it read 100° while everyone around is 80°. It's accurate at the sensor for its siting and conditions but that doesn't mean it's 100° there. If you surround your hygrometer sensor with vegetation, the humidity reading is going to go up and that will raise the dew point calculation. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Mine is 62 currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Readings may be instantaneously accurate for the air around the sensor but it doesn't mean it represents the overall picture. It's like putting a bare sensor out in the sun and having it read 100° while everyone around is 80°. It's accurate at the sensor for its siting and conditions but that doesn't mean it's 100° there. If you surround your hygrometer sensor with vegetation, the humidity reading is going to go up and that will raise the dew point calculation. Just like out in the middle of an asphalt airstrip will be inaccurate due to drying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Mine is 62 currently That actually seems more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 A whole page on dews in the low 60's. Wow-times are tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Just like out in the middle of an asphalt airstrip will be inaccurate due to drying That's not true. ASOS stations arem't on tar, and a 20 yard wide strip of pavement doesn't drop TDs by 5 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Bingo. Well its what we have said in the past too...the reason we use ASOS dewpoints to calculate whether it is "muggy" or not is because it is those sitings where the definitions of muggy were calibrated to. 66F at an airport siting is muggy...and usually that correlates to dewpoints in someone's lush yard in the 70-72F range. Conversely, a dew of 66F in a lush yard is not considered as muggy since the ASOS readings will be in the 60F range. We've calibrated our definitions of muggy to sitings where ASOS stations are located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Well its what we have said in the past too...the reason we use ASOS dewpoints to calculate whether it is "muggy" or not is because it is those sitings where the definitions of muggy were calibrated to. 66F at an airport siting is muggy...and usually that correlates to dewpoints in someone's lush yard in the 70-72F range. Conversely, a dew of 66F in a lush yard is not considered as muggy since the ASOS readings will be in the 60F range. We've calibrated our definitions of muggy to sitings where ASOS stations are located. Yep, all true. I just like the wording "instantaneous accurate" from Metherb. Ugh, dewpoint talk...summer is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Yep, all true. I just like the wording "instantaneous accurate" from Metherb. Ugh, dewpoint talk...summer is the worst. The worst part is we've been over this like 10 times in the past 2 years, but it still comes up. I'm not sure why. At least when it comes to weather excitement, winter cannot get here soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The worst is we've been over this like 10 times in the past 2 years, but it still comes up. I'm not sure why. At least when it comes to weather excitement, winter cannot get here soon enough. I know. Oh well...at least now we can start looking ahead and watch the pieces of the puzzle slowly fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 It's because I simply post my current conditions and people feel the need to reply to it. Posting them same as MPM does in every one of his posts. I didn't ask anyone to comment on the dews. I just posted them for an ob. That's why it comes up over and over. Leave the posts to lay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 My high was 115F because my thermometer was near my gas grill when I was cooking. I'm simply posting my current conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Islip NY. The weenie capitol since 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Love that LI stat. Quite a stretch there and even for all of us to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Looking at both the euro and the gfs I see at least a brief warm up spilling over into our area in the next few weeks. I do not see a heat wave by any means, but several days of 80's may be likely. Some degree of drought should settle in, I see no major rainfall. Do we see a tropical disturbance end our dry spell in a big way with a post tropical depression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Cloud cover products look cloudy for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Beautiful sunny morning. Hard to believe we're not going to get any rain out of this ..So close yet so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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