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February 4-5th Winter Storm Part 3


Whitelakeroy

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Not that I know jack. But I have seen worse dry sluts. Radar shows a nice developing deformation band and taking on the look of a classic winter cyclone.

Oh, the overall presentation is nice.

 

+SN in the comma head area and on east just north of the dry punch. The modeled area of sig totals will no doubt work out.

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In KS

 

KFOE 041953Z 03010KT M1/4SM R31/1200V1800FT +SN FZFG VV006 M05/M07 A3002

RMK AO2 SLP179 P0005 T10501072

 

KTOP 042032Z 04015KT 1/4SM +SN VV010 M04/M07 A3003

 

KLWC 042019Z AUTO 05012G17KT 1/4SM +SN VV011 M04/M07 A3004 RMK AO2 P0001

T10441072

Yep, just noticed when I went to look.  Was kind of shocked to see those sfc obs with the satellite presentation looking like it did... right on the East and North flank of that upper air low.  Its doing its job back there for sure.  Its basically down to Now-casting anyways.  Will be interesting to see how this translates Eastward.

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Ex past facto, but IND says the 12z NAM has been tossed. For those that were sweating it, sweat no more. 

 

FOCUS OBVIOUSLY REMAINS THE SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM BEGINNING TO  
IMPACT CENTRAL INDIANA THIS AFTERNOON. MODELS REMAIN RELATIVELY  
WELL CLUSTERED AROUND A SOLUTION PULLING THE SURFACE LOW FROM THE  
GULF COAST THROUGH MISSISSIPPI/TENNESSEE AND INTO EASTERN KENTUCKY  
AND EASTERN OHIO/WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. NAM REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT  
WESTERLY/WARMER OUTLIER...BUT MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
INDICATES CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK ISSUES WHICH HAS CONTAMINATED ITS  
SOLUTION...AND IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ITS OWN SHORT RANGE  
ENSEMBLE/SREF.  
 
AS EXPECTED...PRECIPITATION HAS BEGUN AS ALL SNOW EVEN ACROSS THE  
SOUTH AS WETBULB EFFECTS/EVAPORATIVE COOLING AND LOW LEVEL WINDS  
OUT OF THE NORTHEAST HAVE KEPT THE COLUMN BELOW FREEZING ACROSS  
CENTRAL INDIANA. AS THE LOW PULLS NORTHEAST TONIGHT...MODELS  
CONTINUE TO INDICATE A WARM NOSE ALOFT PUSHING INTO THE FAR  
SOUTHERN AND SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ONLY  
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST IS TO BRING THIS MIX A  
BIT FURTHER NORTH ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHEASTERN FORECAST AREA BASED  
ON THE 12Z RUNS AND OBSERVED TRENDS UPSTREAM.  
 
ALL FACTORS CONTINUING TO POINT TOWARD SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS  
ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA...EITHER ALL SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TWO  
THIRDS OF THE AREA...OR A MIX OF SNOW/SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN  
ACROSS SOUTHERN AND ESPECIALLY SOUTHEASTERN AREAS.  
 
SYNOPTIC SUPPORT HAS IMPROVED SLIGHTLY IN RECENT RUNS WITH STRONG  
Q VECTOR CONVERGENCE VALUES BOTH ALOFT AND IN THE LOW/MID LEVELS  
MOVING ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT.  
 
MESOSCALE FACTORS REMAIN A CONCERN AND HAVE MENTIONED THE  
POSSIBILITY FOR ACCUMULATIONS IN THE ALL SNOW AREAS UP TO A FOOT  
IN SOME PLACES AS RATES/RATIOS COULD BE INCREASED BY BANDING THIS  
EVENING. STRONG FRONTOGENETIC FORCING CONTINUES TO BE NOTED ALONG  
WITH STRONGLY NEGATIVE EPV INDICATING THIS BANDING  
POTENTIAL...POTENTIAL FOR CONVECTIVE ELEMENTS...AND THUS THE  
OUTSIDE SHOT FOR A RUMBLE OF THUNDER IN THE STRONGEST BANDS THIS  
EVENING.  
 
EXPECT THE STORM TO BEGIN WINDING DOWN AFTER 2 AM AS STRONGEST  
LIFT BEGINS TO EXIT AND A DRY SLOT BEGINS TO IMPINGE UPON THE  
AREA. HOWEVER...LIGHT SNOW LIKELY TO CONTINUE ACROSS MOST OF THE  
AREA INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING...WTIH PERHAPS LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS  
INTO THE AFTERNOON AS WELL.

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See some very random floaters here at 88 and 355. Nothing major by any means, but it's a good sign for sure. Calls for another few hours before saturation may be in jeopardy.

 

Nothing floating around yet just east of you in Oakbrook Terrace (where I work). I'm at the corner of Butterfield & 22nd.

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Within that light pink area I would definitely be expecting good snows to be falling... The X there is where I approximate the core of the upper air system.  Maroon is that dry punch, again just left, in that light blue area, the corresponding heavier snows.  The purple areas you have good enhancement from the WAA ahead and further W cooling cloud tops due to dynamics moving in from the S.  Yellow areas highlighting good diffluence helping to enhance lift.  Wherever that light pink area translates Eastward into the diffluent flow is gonna get the brunt of this.  I guess I expected satellite representation in the cold sector to look a bit more "classic" but its still not horrible. 

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LOT punted on LE

 

Doesn't sound very promising.

 

 

SOME POTENTIAL DOES EXIST FOR A LITTLE LAKE-ENHANCEMENT IN SNOWFALL

ALONG/NEAR THE LAKE LATER TONIGHT...WHEN LOW LEVEL WINDS BACK MORE

NORTH-NORTHEAST. FORECAST SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO DEPICT FAIRLY

SHALLOW EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS/SMALL DELTA-T VALUES SUGGESTING WEAK

THERMODYNAMIC SETUP FOR ANY REAL SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION. COLD

WATER/SOME SIGNIFICANT ICE COVER IN SPOTS ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO BE

NEGATIVE FACTORS...THOUGH SOME DEGREE OF MOISTURE FLUX AND

CONVERGENCE MAY ADD A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF QPF/TENTHS OF AN INCH OF

SNOWFALL FOR FAR NORTHEAST IL. LAKE ENHANCEMENT/EFFECT PARAMETERS DO

IMPROVE A LITTLE WEDNESDAY AS SYSTEM PULLS TO THE EAST AND COLDER

LOW LEVEL AIR ADVECTS IN...THOUGH THERMODYNAMICS STILL NOT

PARTICULARLY IMPRESSIVE AND NORTH-SOUTH BANDING IS EXPECTED TO BE

TRANSITORY AS LOW LEVEL WINDS SLOWLY BUT STEADILY BACK TO THE

NORTHWEST THROUGH THE DAY. HAVE MAINTAINED SOME LAKE EFFECT SNOW

SHOWERS ACROSS LAKE/PORTER COUNTIES INTO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THOUGH

WITH ONLY MINOR ACCUMS ACCOUNT ABOVE REASONING.

 

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Looking at satellite imagery and appears the upper air low is just W or SW of Wichita KS.  Also the dry punch runs essentially from SE Kansas/SW Missouri/NE Oklahoma Northeast right into Central IL.  Just left of that we are getting heavy snow reports around Galesburg.  But back in KS the snowfall reports don't really seem to impressive and the satellite wouldn't really suggest real heavy snows falling.  I haven't looked at surface obs back there yet but I have some major concerns for this achieving the higher end forecasted amounts.  And remember the models have been to wet all year typically.  So go with the somewhat lower QPF's, that fact we got a huge dry slot to overcome, dry air at the surface to overcome, and a system that looks a bit disjointed and that's why I have the concerns I do.

great analysis. pretty much what I have been thinking. the deformation zone near KC looks pretty beefy but in a localized area. but overall it doesn't seem impressive. so far waa snows haven't been generous at my location due to that dry air it had to fight off. all the banding def seems to be staying around I72 and south. im def concerned of us achieving that snow totals forecasted. that dry punch is a lot more aggressive than models ever depicted. we shall see I guess

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