Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Eh Bob the snow line moves south a decent bit. Verbatim snow maps show 2" Baltimore and more N/W. The run is better, as one frame develops more solid front end precip with 850's between DCA and BWI at that time. A slightly better run. Not saying it will get better from there, but not as bad as 18z. Snow maps seem flawed. We lose 850s by hr 66. But it is an improvement with precip. I agree there so that part of the trend is better. I suppose it's safe to have hope in holding on a little longer. Definitely wetter. There .50 on our area now. Rain would be more than half from what I'm seeing. Best bet is to hug the coldest for temps and wettest for precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Snow maps seem flawed. We lose 850s by hr 66. But it is an improvement with precip. I agree there so that part of the trend is better. I suppose it's safe to have hope in holding on a little longer. Definitely wetter. There .50 on our area now. Rain would be more than half from what I'm seeing. Best bet is to hug the coldest for temps and wettest for precip ncep surface temps stay around or under freezing thru 81 hrs N&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yeah this is a depiction of a more robust system and the high to the north is modeled a tad stronger letting the cold have a bit more teeth to it. Hopefully the euro comes in better later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wxbell and ncep are different wirh 850 line. At hr 66 it runs I70. Ncep is further south. Not sure why. I'll hug ncep for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wxbell and ncep are different wirh 850 line. At hr 66 it runs I70. Ncep is further south. Not sure why. I'll hug ncep for now. Instant has it south as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 ncep surface temps stay around or under freezing thru 81 hrs N&W Yes its both a colder and wetter run overall. Definitely better than 18z, a good bit wetter. However, 6z will probably be dry like always, though I expect this to be wetter at 12z regardless. That doesn't necessarily mean snowier, but I believe our odds for a bit more wintry precip will go up. Also Bob 850's are there until around 69, after the heaviest panel. Used e-wall this run since I'm busy and didnt log in to any pay sites. Yeah this is a depiction of a more robust system and the high to the north is modeled a tad stronger letting the cold have a bit more teeth to it. Hopefully the euro comes in better later on It may. It hasn't been that bad to begin with. I think the models are going to trend a little better in both regards before the storm. By no means do I think anything dramatic, but still could improve snow chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Instant has it south as well. So does e-wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm huggin everything except Wxbell. 1-3 was in the cards and the hand still hold aces, two's, and three's. Euro has shown the most favorable temps. Tonight could be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wxbell and ncep are different wirh 850 line. At hr 66 it runs I70. Ncep is further south. Not sure why. I'll hug ncep for now. After taking a second look I noticed the same thing. GFS and Euro both look like they are really backing off the cold shot on Monday as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm huggin everything except Wxbell. 1-3 was in the cards and the hand still hold aces, two's, and three's. Euro has shown the most favorable temps. Tonight could be good. we're still far enough away for meaningful differences can develop for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm huggin everything except Wxbell. 1-3 was in the cards and the hand still hold aces, two's, and three's. Euro has shown the most favorable temps. Tonight could be good. With the mini 2 step the gfs did, yes tonight could be good. If the bar is low haha. GFS maybe leads the way for a decent suite. You want yoda's GGEM to keep coming in snowy like 12z, which was showing a mdt event just n of DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 With the mini 2 step the gfs did, yes tonight could be good. If the bar is low haha. GFS maybe leads the way for a decent suite. You want yoda's GGEM to keep coming in snowy like 12z, which was showing a mdt event just n of DC. My bar is an inch is a big win. Folks further n-w obviously have a better chance. The column supports snow for a time. All models show that. Verbatim, 1-3pm is the changeover window so far. We just need to hope that the front end stuff keeps trending wetter. Plenty of time for that for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The moneyshot hour for Baltimore and the burbs to the N/W. Canadian looks snowy for those areas again. DC starts off as snow, just s of 95 r/s line. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 GGEM 2-4" for Balt, 1-2" DC. 5-8" NW burbs such as OKV, HGR, FDK, MRB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The euro is better, for sure. More precip, I am not on computer to elaborate. Just running it by so Bob can wake up to happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Euro a good bit colder than the gfs and more precip on the front. 1-3 with close to 4 far n-w. Randy might be back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Euro a good bit colder than the gfs and more precip on the front. 1-3 with close to 4 far n-w. Randy might be back in. Surface temps suck though. 32 won't cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Dca is torching despite 850s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The euro is better, for sure. More precip, I am not on computer to elaborate. Just running it by so Bob can wake up to happiness. Euro a good bit colder than the gfs and more precip on the front. 1-3 with close to 4 far n-w. Randy might be back in. Nice, I am feeling this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice snow for leesburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Dca is garbage but western burbs decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Surface temps suck though. 32 won't cut it Nice snow for leesburg You are bipolar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Lol- Ji is as steady as nam and euro. Just in different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Lol- Ji is as steady as nam and euro. Just in different ways. You should drop wxbell and go with Ji weather, you will have everything spelled out clearly for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'll spike my football in another inch of snow and drink beer by the fireplace. I'm kinda stoked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice, I am feeling this one.Same here, good trends tonight. What you want to see with a more juiced front end look and better temperature profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'll spike my football in another inch of snow and drink beer by the fireplace. I'm kinda stoked You can play with RG3 he is free . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Dca is torching despite 850s Nah, dc's snowpack will save them...wait a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Its not too bad even close in to the cities, all are in the game. Most will see front end frozen, just how juicy is the front end? We shall see. Onsey also plays a part, you want this one to start early also of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Same here, good trends tonight. What you want to see with a more juiced front end look and better temperature profiles. It is always good to have the Euro on your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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