ag3 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I still cannot believe there is an argument here. NYC going over 100 is a big deal. What happened last summer has nothing to do with setting the bar for expectations of a major heat wave. The average amount of days where NYC goes over 100 is so small that it is significant whenever it happens. Sure, maybe it's not earth shattering. But I don't consider any temperature event "earth shattering". That term is ridiculous for this conversation. Wait and see is a good mindset to have. But to say that the NAMs advertised ~102 degree high would not be significant is pretty silly. Agreed. If NYC hits 102, it would be historical. And to top it off, Thursday will be in the upper 90's and Saturday in the mid 90's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Nope born and raised in New Jersey. I also didn't just say it has to be consecutive. 3 days in a single week would also put it up there as uber memorable for me. You are still ignoring the fact that the occurrence of such a thing is literally incredible given our climate and historical averages. To measure intensity of heat against such a thing is ridiculous. If I measured every snowstorm against the Blizzard of 96, I would be scoffing at this past winter, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I was at a backyard party that day..I had to walk into the house and stick my face in the AC or I was going to faint..it was unbearable..I mean 102 degrees and near 80 dewpoints is life threatning..hottest day in my 52 years of life ..this one could be as bad as there are fatalities in the midwest I got heatstroke that midday and went to the beach that night.It was just horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Slightly off topic but has anyone noticed the fog bank off of NJ heading north towards Long Island? OKX issued an SPS on it. SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 NYZ080-081-178-179-210045- SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHERN QUEENS- SOUTHERN NASSAU- 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...FOG ALONG THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS EVENING... A FOG BANK WAS LIFTING SLOWLY NORTH TOWARD THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND THIS AFTERNOON. THE FOG MAY BECOME LOCALLY DENSE...WITH VISIBILITY BELOW ONE QUARTER MILE. BEACHGOERS AND RESIDENTS ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH SHORE OF THE OCEAN AND THE GREAT SOUTH BAY SHOULD USE CAUTION WHEN WALKING OR DRIVING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Slightly off topic but has anyone noticed the fog bank off of NJ heading north towards Long Island? OKX issued an SPS on it. SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 NYZ080-081-178-179-210045- SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHERN QUEENS- SOUTHERN NASSAU- 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...FOG ALONG THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS EVENING... A FOG BANK WAS LIFTING SLOWLY NORTH TOWARD THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND THIS AFTERNOON. THE FOG MAY BECOME LOCALLY DENSE...WITH VISIBILITY BELOW ONE QUARTER MILE. BEACHGOERS AND RESIDENTS ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH SHORE OF THE OCEAN AND THE GREAT SOUTH BAY SHOULD USE CAUTION WHEN WALKING OR DRIVING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. Yep, we mentioned it on our twitter a few minutes ago too. It's been cool to watch on satellite. Gotta love the magician southeast winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Slightly off topic but has anyone noticed the fog bank off of NJ heading north towards Long Island? OKX issued an SPS on it. SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 NYZ080-081-178-179-210045- SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHERN QUEENS- SOUTHERN NASSAU- 233 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...FOG ALONG THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS EVENING... A FOG BANK WAS LIFTING SLOWLY NORTH TOWARD THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG ISLAND THIS AFTERNOON. THE FOG MAY BECOME LOCALLY DENSE...WITH VISIBILITY BELOW ONE QUARTER MILE. BEACHGOERS AND RESIDENTS ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH SHORE OF THE OCEAN AND THE GREAT SOUTH BAY SHOULD USE CAUTION WHEN WALKING OR DRIVING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/1km.php?loop=1&type=vis®ion=LongIsland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 WABC-TV met Lee Goldberg just mentioned via Twitter that Central Park made it up to 89 degrees today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 JULY 15th 1995 was the single hottest day in my lifetime in my 44 years on earth.I will never forget that day as long as I live.We have had hot summers,we had the hottest summer on record last year which is also memorable,I am not downplaying it.I hit 100+ 3 times last summer so that was historic.Yet nothing has even remotely challenged the conditions on that day. Maybe this upcoming heat is not impressive for YOU,but it IS impressive for NYC. Just looking at total 90 degree+ days for June-August in CPK, here are summers with 20 or more 90 degree+ readings in the last 10 years 2002: 27, max temp 97 2005: 21, max temp 99 2010: 32, max temp 103 so far 2011: 10, max temp 95 (we can probably lock in at least three more with the seasonal high coming on Friday for CPK). Will we even push to 2005 levels for June-August? I leave out May and September as 90+ are anomalies in those months. We shall see I guess. We get to 20-25 90 degree+ days then I throw around the historic word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 You are still ignoring the fact that the occurrence of such a thing is literally incredible given our climate and historical averages. To measure intensity of heat against such a thing is ridiculous. If I measured every snowstorm against the Blizzard of 96, I would be scoffing at this past winter, too. Look hitting 100 or higher on any given day is always a significant historic event. I guess downplaying that is silly. I am downplaying the overall significance of this heat wave being super memorable. Regardless of how many days in a row we hit 90 in CPK w/ this current heat wave, nothing changes the fact that overall we have only 10 (will be 13 after Saturday most likely) 90 degree days thus far this summer in CPK (again not talking about Newark here). 3 times in the last ten years we have had 21 or more 90 degree days June-August in CPK. Still a long way to go obviously and if we approach that 20-25 90 degree days level, then I will be impressed on an overall basis. This clearly is the most impressive stretch of heat of the summer no doubt but on a grand scale we'll have to see how it stacks up against the last 10 June-August periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 12z NAM MOS was 103 F at EWR and 102 F at LGA on Friday. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The Entire state of NJ just got upgraded to Excessive Heat Warnings... I have never seen that before... ever... usually it's confined to Mercer and Philadelphia counties due to the UHI... this is a serious heat wave, here. Mt. Holly URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 329 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...DANGEROUS HEAT WILL IMPACT THE REGION... .OPPRESSIVE HEAT AND HUMIDITY...STRETCHING EAST FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST REGION...WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD EASTWARD ACROSS OUR AREA THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK AND POTENTIALLY RIGHT INTO THE WEEKEND. DEZ002-003-MDZ008-012-015-019-020-NJZ001-007>010-012-013-016- 020>023-027-PAZ054-055-060>062-211000- /O.UPG.KPHI.EH.A.0003.110721T1600Z-110723T0000Z/ /O.EXB.KPHI.EH.W.0003.110721T1600Z-110724T0000Z/ KENT-INLAND SUSSEX-CECIL-KENT MD-QUEEN ANNES-TALBOT-CAROLINE- SUSSEX-WARREN-MORRIS-HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX- WESTERN MONMOUTH-SALEM-OCEAN-CUMBERLAND-ATLANTIC-CAPE MAY- SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-CARBON-MONROE-BERKS-LEHIGH-NORTHAMPTON- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DOVER...GEORGETOWN...ELKTON... CHESTERTOWN...CENTREVILLE...EASTON...DENTON...NEWTON... WASHINGTON...MORRISTOWN...FLEMINGTON...SOMERVILLE... NEW BRUNSWICK...FREEHOLD...PENNSVILLE...JACKSON...MILLVILLE... HAMMONTON...CAPE MAY COURT HOUSE...WHARTON STATE FOREST... JIM THORPE...STROUDSBURG...READING...ALLENTOWN...BETHLEHEM 329 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON THURSDAY TO 8 PM EDT SATURDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON THURSDAY TO 8 PM EDT SATURDAY. THE EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * HEAT INDEX VALUES...AROUND 105 DEGREES THURSDAY...NEAR 110 DEGREES FRIDAY...AND BETWEEN 105 AND 110 DEGREES SATURDAY. * TIMING...PEAK HEAT INDEX VALUES WILL OCCUR DURING THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT NOW...THE WORST CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY AFTERNOON. * IMPACTS...THE COMBINATION OF HEAT AND HUMIDITY WILL CREATE DANGEROUS HEAT INDEX VALUES...ESPECIALLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING MEANS THAT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF DANGEROUSLY HOT TEMPERATURES WILL OCCUR. THE COMBINATION OF HOT TEMPERATURES AND HIGH HUMIDITY WILL CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN WHICH HEAT ILLNESSES ARE LIKELY. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS...STAY IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM...STAY OUT OF THE SUN...AND CHECK UP ON RELATIVES AND NEIGHBORS. TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS IF YOU WORK OR SPEND TIME OUTSIDE. WHEN POSSIBLE...RESCHEDULE STRENUOUS ACTIVITY TO EARLY MORNING OR EVENING. KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AND HEAT STROKE. WEAR LIGHT WEIGHT AND LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING WHEN POSSIBLE AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER. TO REDUCE RISK DURING OUTDOOR WORK...THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS SCHEDULING FREQUENT REST BREAKS IN SHADED OR AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENTS. ANYONE OVERCOME BY HEAT SHOULD BE MOVED TO A COOL AND SHADED LOCATION. HEAT STROKE IS AN EMERGENCY - CALL 9 1 1. Upton URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 405 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...PROLONGED PERIOD OF HIGH HEAT AND HUMIDITY STARTING THURSDAY... .A LARGE DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES WILL GRADUALLY BUILD EAST AND SPREAD AN INCREASINGLY HOT AND HUMID AIR MASS ACROSS THE REGION STARTING THURSDAY AFTERNOON. NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-176-178-210415- /O.NEW.KOKX.EH.W.0001.110721T1600Z-110722T0000Z/ /O.EXT.KOKX.EH.A.0001.110722T1600Z-110723T0200Z/ WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN- EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION- EASTERN UNION-ORANGE-PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER- SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX- RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHERN QUEENS- SOUTHERN QUEENS- 405 PM EDT WED JUL 20 2011 ...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TO 8 PM EDT THURSDAY... ...EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH NOW IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TO 8 PM EDT THURSDAY. * LOCATIONS...NEW YORK CITY...ALL OF NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY INCLUDING ORANGE...PUTNAM...ROCKLAND AND WESTCHESTER COUNTIES. * HAZARDS...EXCESSIVE HEAT WITH AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES OF 95 TO 100 DEGREES BOTH THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. * HEAT INDEX VALUES...UP TO 108. * TIMING...THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING MAINLY FROM NOON UNTIL 8 PM EACH DAY. * IMPACTS...POTENTIAL IMPACTS INCLUDE HEAT DISORDERS FOR CHILDREN...THE ELDERLY AND PEOPLE PERFORMING PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES DURING THE PEAK HEATING OF THE DAY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN THE COMBINATION OF HEAT AND HUMIDITY IS EXPECTED TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT IS 105 DEGREES OR GREATER. TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS IF YOU WORK OR SPEND TIME OUTSIDE. WHEN POSSIBLE...RESCHEDULE STRENUOUS ACTIVITIES TO EARLY MORNING OR EVENING. KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AND HEAT STROKE. WEAR LIGHT WEIGHT AND LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING WHEN POSSIBLE AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER. AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH MEANS THAT THE COMBINATION OF HEAT AND HUMIDITY COULD CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN WHICH HEAT ILLNESSES ARE POSSIBLE. TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS IF YOU WORK OR SPEND TIME OUTSIDE. WHEN POSSIBLE...RESCHEDULE STRENUOUS ACTIVITIES TO EARLY MORNING OR EVENING. KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AND HEAT STROKE. WEAR LIGHT WEIGHT AND LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING WHEN POSSIBLE AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER. TO REDUCE RISK DURING OUTDOOR WORK THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS SCHEDULING FREQUENT REST BREAKS IN SHADED OR AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENTS. ANYONE OVERCOME BY HEAT SHOULD BE MOVED TO A COOL AND SHADED LOCATION. HEAT STROKE IS AN EMERGENCY...CALL 9 1 1. NEW YORK CITY RESIDENTS SHOULD CALL 3-1-1 TO IDENTIFY COOLING CENTER LOCATIONS AND TO OBTAIN BEAT THE HEAT SAFETY TIPS. 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CSheridan12 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Looks like the bona fide heat wave has officially ended in Newark as theyve been reporting 88 for the past 3 hours, unless the station spiked in between one of the hours and we won't see that till the 6 hour max/mins come out. Same with Central Park and a few other stations being affected by that damn sea breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 94 IMBY today and it felt every bit of it, surprised that places to the north did not hit 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The 18z NAM now has 100 F Thursday...102 F Friday..and 100 F Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Newark climo has 88 for the high. And they just dropped back to 85 this hour. Central Park also only made up to 89. So the heat wave has been broken for those stations. The SE flow was just too strong around noon today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ict1523 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Looks like officially we get two shorter heat waves now instead of one long one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Newark climo has 88 for the high. And they just dropped back to 85 this hour. Central Park also only made up to 89. So the heat wave has been broken for those stations. The SE flow was just too strong around noon today. immediately west of ewr (and i mean immediately) it was 90. the obs site is maybe 50 feet from the water's edge. TEB hit 91 and CDW hit 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 got up to 91 here today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 High was 86.4F after a low of 70.4F here in Dobbs Ferry. Definitely above average but not that uncomfortable, although I'm not too thrilled about the next few days. It's going to be brutal down in BWI. FAIR 83.3/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yeah stupid SE flow screwed me out of getting an official heatwave. Today would've been day #3, but now it'll take until Saturday for heat wave criteria to be verifed here. 86.1F high. But torrid humidity, mid 70s td's, air quality poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 High was 86.4F after a low of 70.4F here in Dobbs Ferry. Definitely above average but not that uncomfortable, although I'm not too thrilled about the next few days. It's going to be brutal down in BWI. FAIR 83.3/72 Hopefully up here too-- I'll be upset if we dont get at least one day in the triple digits! IT'S TIME TO MAKE HISTORY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Just looking at total 90 degree+ days for June-August in CPK, here are summers with 20 or more 90 degree+ readings in the last 10 years 2002: 27, max temp 97 2005: 21, max temp 99 2010: 32, max temp 103 so far 2011: 10, max temp 95 (we can probably lock in at least three more with the seasonal high coming on Friday for CPK). Will we even push to 2005 levels for June-August? I leave out May and September as 90+ are anomalies in those months. We shall see I guess. We get to 20-25 90 degree+ days then I throw around the historic word. Out of those summers, only 2002 and 2010 were true scorchers (which I define as at least 30 90 degree days for the whole year.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 That is bogus that not all stations did and everyone here knows it. Um they all reported well over 100 degrees last summer lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Southeast wind... 85 high temp here today, Currently 78. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 12z nam text soundings only show 80's for JFK. Screw that-- we'll be in the 90s before 9 AM and be hitting 100 before noon. That's what usually happens in this kind of pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Arctic air bleeding south at the surface despite high heights. This is why there were so many mixed events that winter. LGA did quite a bit better than JFK and it was crappies as you went more south. There was around 60 inches here that year. Will thinks there was some residual effects from Mt. Pinatubo also. That winter had so many wintry storms-- only a few of them all snow though. I think the real gradient was to our south. How much snow did LGA officially measure that winter? I know NYC had 53.6" and JFK had 46" I had 47"-- it was my first winter of measuring snow. I have been keeping track of temps since the very hot summer of 1991, but just was not interested in measuring snow until the 1993-94 winter. Most of whatever happened in 1993-94 (outside of the cold) was blown away by 1995-96 though-- that winter was amazing in every sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I saw this post from Tip earlier: Posted Today, 11:28 AM Posts: 2,127 Joined: November 13, 2010 This is the hottest I - personally - have ever seen the thermal fields modeled on the FRH grid for any location betwee NY and Boston: 54000485121 -1094 092708 83362718 This is LGA's virtual sounding and has +36C at 980... I have never seen +27C at 900mb on this grid, which is what that 3rd douple value has... This is probably 40 or 41C in the 2-meter, or 104/105'ish if verified... for LGA... Boston is 3226 ... probably 99 for that same time, 18z Friday... Again, my experience is that the NAM will tend to close BOS closer to LGA as the time gets inside of 48 hours on these WSW wind/warm sector scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Will thinks there was some residual effects from Mt. Pinatubo also. That winter had so many wintry storms-- only a few of them all snow though. I think the real gradient was to our south. How much snow did LGA officially measure that winter? I know NYC had 53.6" and JFK had 46" I had 47"-- it was my first winter of measuring snow. I have been keeping track of temps since the very hot summer of 1991, but just was not interested in measuring snow until the 1993-94 winter. Most of whatever happened in 1993-94 (outside of the cold) was blown away by 1995-96 though-- that winter was amazing in every sense of the word. 58.5''. Newark had 64.9'', JFK had 45.2'', and NYC had 53.4''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I would not be shocked if Saturday is the hotest day at the coast including jfk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 12z nam text soundings only show 80's for JFK. the 12z NAM MOS was 99 at JFK. KJFK NAM MOS GUIDANCE 7/20/2011 1200 UTC DT /JULY 20/JULY 21 /JULY 22 /JULY 23 HR 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00 06 12 N/X 71 91 77 99 76 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ETAPA_12z/f54.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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