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The previous seasons do not help, I think most of it is rooted in that. That’s how I was for a while in the 2010s when SNE was pulling bombs left and right. 12-24” grew on trees like 2010-2015. Even 2015-16 sucked overall (all-time bad up north) but CT was getting stripes of 15-inch events through the heart of the state. We’ve all been there. It ebbs and flows.

Remember, in November it usually takes a Stratosphere warming +30-35 days to impact the NAO (-NAO). Based on CDC reanalysis maps, I'm saying Nov 21 was the first day of 10mb warming. Here it is to Dec 5: Not real strong.. I'd say a 4-5/10 warming, but 11/21 is +35 days -- Dec 26, and 12/5 is +30 days -- Jan 5. So watch Dec 26 - Jan 5 for a turn to more -NAO conditions. That isn't on 2-week model progs yet.

Okay I am not an educated person lol

It’s hard to know now because ensembles suck with this pattern. When you look at many of the individual members on days 10-16 you can see they are actually quite cold in the east. We are getting skewing on many ensemble averages by some members that crank raging zonal patterns by trying to place the ridge all the way to the east coast. Probably need to see the WPO go positive in order to have this totally come off the rails

Super foggy out again at 34 degrees .

Some on here swear there’s only 8 weeks of snow left.

Chicago has been off to a quick start: "Chicago picked up another 4.8" of #snow ..... with their season to date total now at 17.1" vs. the average of 3.5". This is the fastest start in 47 years and just shy of what fell all of last season: 17.6"."

I mean I’m not saying winter is over, I just feel like we could potentially squander a favorable backdrop for winter weather, which exacerbates the ptsd of prior season failures.

We are slowly dropping but almost stalled at 33.7

Wow- big shift on 18z GFS ensembles to +NAO in the medium and long range. Natural Gas opened gapping down in price.

lol. People need to deal with it. I’d rather it was still 60°. I’m only happy about the pack because it’s cold. But it’s true. It’s 12/7. The whining is dumb. There’s 4 months of snow season left.

It’s pretty hilarious when the people who have snow are like, “yo, chill everyone” that’s not a complaint, just a statement

1-2 inches forecasted tomorrow. We shall see.

I take 2 steps forward

Another thing to note about '95-96 is there was a warmup after the aforementioned Snowstorm in December. It ended right before Christmas and Rain changed to Snow here in the early morning hours of Christmas and we had an inch of Snow at 7 A.M. One other thing about that Winter; it did have an extreme Arctic Outbreak. February 3rd and 4th Heavy Snow fell dropping 10-24 inches in the mid and upper great Valley. the front passed and the Temp fell to -21 feb 5 with the high of -4 in Pennington gap.

Well let’s take a step back . You’re buried under 8” of snow with more coming this week . I haven’t been whining at all , but absolutely frustrated and close to losing my shit , and I think I speak for Will and the rest of those who have gone snowless in the promised great pattern . It’s easy to say this when you’re in deep winter .

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@olafminesaw thank you! @wncsnow I had seen another map of the Euro had painted 6.4” up this way which I thought was pretty impressive but I’m on my mobile so I can’t post

That One was a SE traveling System that bottomed in the mid South and intensified and moved ENE South of us . I measured 7 inches in Pennington gap. Roanoke got 10". It was evening of the 9th and morning of 10th.

I know people want snow for the holidays, but jfc…it’s 12/7.

They need their own sub forum. Different world Manchester north.

It was the Ravens shitting all over themselves yet again.