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How good is the HRRR precip type algorithm? Is it like the Euro with a lot of sleet depicted as freezing rain? Here it looks like the sleet zone is pretty narrow compared to other models. Do you think that is legit?

That’s what she said…

Thanks for your help!!

For areas getting sleet on that frame, the issue is below 700 mb.

Nam looks better. So far at least the high is more south and the cold air push is better also the precip shield is larger and heavier at least thru 30hrs

https://x.com/babowling12/status/2014492451986174233?s=46&t=LVg8BRWCh1zZb6F_t95EVg .

HAPPY CONVECTION ALLOWING DAY to those who celebrate

That channel 7 weenie is trying to find paydirt via the three-way (RI/CT/MA border).

Not sure how many of you are CoCoRaHS reporters, but I thought this post was helpful on their main page. Especially since the reporting time is going to be during our most pukiest snow period. Winter Alert! Here are the basics for reporting your "Gauge Catch" when it snows: Remove the funnel and center tube and place them by your kitchen sink, and leave the large cylinder mounted outside to receive any and all precipitation that falls. When it is time to measure - bring the snow-filled gauge inside and let it melt. *Watch this short, animated video for how to do it quickly by adding pre-measured warm water using your inner tube* Once melted you can carefully pour the water into the inner tube using the funnel - making sure to subtract any amount of warm water that was added. Enter this amount in same place on the data entry form where you enter your rainfall amount - called "Gauge Catch". If you experience freezing rain (click here to read about the differences between frozen precipitation types and freezing rain), still follow the procedure above, but also report the thickness of the ice in your comments. Make sure to only melt and measure the ice that freezes on the inside of the gauge. Optional reporting of freezing rain can be found in the left-hand menu of your data entry page or click here to access more information including a link to enter an ice accretion impact report. Here, the training guide goes over how to report the thickness of the ice, but if you only have impacts to report, and photos, you can use the links or QR code to submit a report from your smartphone.

Sleet is included in snow totals in obs/climate reports. That product is freezing rain accretion.

Its down in N NC

Well, that doesn’t mean that some of these areas don’t get double digits…one station in particular has a poor record in this regard.

Damn..plenty cold at that level

Yup, I don’t think that is pinned down yet

I moved my Vermont trip to March 7-9. We can be sure there won't be a snowstorm that weekend, right?

Last time: snow and sleet both count as snow. Snow maps include sleet.

It’s been on and off on a bunch of models for a bit however. Let this weekend clear out first as the crux of this potential stems from the Arctic front passing today, traversing the TPV, coming back around and spawning the storm as I recall from yesterday’s reading.

That could be. I'm guessing the totals will creep up as we get closer to the storm. Curious to get @OHweather thoughts on the storm. I'm also wondering if model qpf output takes into account the dry air in place and qpf that will be wasted due to saturation?

I usually don’t report sleet on top of snow. This time I will, but I’ll take separate measurements to get the snow accum right when it flips, and then get the sleet accum just to differentiate the two when reporting the total. Also given that sleet is counted, the bullish nws forecasts make a little more sense.

Agree 100%. But yet, it is shocking the number of people that will pull out a weather app and tell me to the hour what it's going to do. Happened last night with a group I was having dinner with.

The snow map does not clearly say sleet.

We should like both publications as they would have the storm going more to the right. The New York Times would have the low tracking over Pennsylvania. Relax just having some fun, submitting a post without the word sleet in it, except for that one time.

You’re welcome. LWX spotter form has snow/sleet combined, so def measure as one total. Freezing rain would be separate