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I'd be on board with that. Shoot these days I 5-post myself if when I'm feeling a certain kind of way, lol But yeah if I had a vote I'd say do that...it would help everybody. If you're frustrated it does not good to vent continuously--because it only perpetuates a bad mood and ya don't feel better!

GFSAI has some digital blue in fantasy range. Everyone get a little hit to tide you over. First hit is free, then you gotta pay.

And - pna's

Also - for whatever my opinion is worth, the server doesn’t have a moderation problem or a people problem. It’s largely a lack of snow problem… plus a little bit of COVID that truly destroyed social order everywhere and we may never recover. There will always be better posters than others, and my recall is that a lot of people have always only shown up for real threats. We’ll always have young people showing up, but that’s how you grow the forum and hopefully make better posters. Forum is better when it snows… that’s all it is. Prob would also help to have meetups again so we don’t only know each other virtually but that’s always tricky (again sort of a COVID problem)

They have to salt or sand though right?

Someone argued with me a while back that this does happen… we go from no snow on the models to snow. I dont think i have seen it? [emoji2369]. However, we always lose digital snow. .

Some places across the tug are nearing 200" on the year already. Places south of here are 100"+

I'm of the opinion that I do not believe we ever really truly achieved phase 8 on that first attempt. The signal was shoved there with a turbocharged (due to the events in the strat) CCKW. However that waned as the strat event ended. Plus the falling AAM at the same time attenuated the signal further. Sort of abandoning it. So we didn't exactly get a classic response. The MJO has been disorganized since then and not really much of a factor. CPC MJO desk has mentioned how it's been inactive as of late as well. As such I'm really not trusting any MJO output at this time until something more coherent shows up on multiple cycles. CCKW's and ERW's are the main event in the tropics for now, and that's giving models fits. CPC does mention that if another MJO were to initiate in January, it would likely begin in the west Pacific due to underlying conditions. So if one were to take shape, that's probably not a bad location as a guess. I just don't have any faith in that forecast as of yet. The warm pool situation is more for Feb. If you can have it bump east enough away from it's climo position that's how you can attain a cold Feb. Which has a fair enough chance of occurring as per posts in the main enso thread. La nina is bad in Feb because the climo position of that feature is ~120E. So convective forcing is concentrated mostly in that spot. So you wind up with the Aleutian ridge/ SE ridge regime that is widely known. If you start to shift it away from that and inch it more and more towards the dateline instead, you start working Pacific ridging into more and more of a favorable location. Instead of the climo la nina location. That's one way to get a cold Feb out of a la nina. Which seems like could be happening with a big WWB in progress out there now and perhaps again later in the month, but will it all be enough. It's already made the move away from 120E since October. It doesn't need to be centered on the dateline, just a little bit more east past 150E could work. It's really not all that far off...

Same here what looked like a fairly nice day has turned to overcast around 9am.

The Ops are changing run to run. Ensembles -see my post above & yesterday & the day before…- as they have shown for several days, are showing a workable pattern starting early next week.

Yeah I reeeaaallly don't think anybody should be cliff-jumping over hr360. Not after what we saw all last month, and even over the last couple of days. Fact is we just don't know...I'd suggest some spend less time here and less time model to model until we have an actual threat to track.

The OKX forecast zone is almost entirely NORTH and EAST of NYC. I plotted the NWS reports on the map I posted before. It shows the distribution of snowfall a lot better than the NWS PNS.

Exactly, I agree. Yeah, we all get a bit frustrated or disappointed when there's nothing much specific on the horizon in terms of snow events. Or when the models go all over the place, creating the inevitable mood swings. And even a bit of venting is OK. However, as you say, the constant bitching with page after page of the same people whining that "it's over!!!" gets really old and detracts from the actual discussion. Can people still be five-posted (as has been done in storm threads upon occasion)? Like if someone posts a bunch of whiny BS and nothing more several times succession in any of the discussion threads (medium range or for specific events), they get five-posted for awhile.

Greenfield DPW has an unwritten rule where the plows don’t come out or anything under 2 inches.

Looks like a couple inches of snow today with another system bringing some fr drz/rn over to lgt sn overnight Mon. Keep the glacier slowly growing.

They didn’t really flop. They’re just not showing any snow.

Right but what the hell is causing this garbage consistency? I don't ever remember the models waffling this much.

Not sure they’re all adults tbh

Huge Dan Campbell fan, he’ll have his guys ready to play. Enjoy the week off of tracking, after Monday we get a nice warm up for a few days to defrost before heading back into the freezer the following week. I’m hoping I can squeeze a day at the golf range before the rain next weekend.

This was a solid 4-8” event for most of the OKX forecast zones from Newark on to the north and east. 506 NOUS41 KOKX 271454 PNSOKX CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-280254- Public Information Statement National Weather Service New York NY 954 AM EST Sat Dec 27 2025 ...SNOWFALL REPORTS... Location Amount Time/Date Provider ...Connecticut... ...Fairfield County... 4 NNW New Fairfield 9.4 in 0901 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 E Sherman 8.5 in 0800 AM 12/27 Cocorahs 1 SE Wilton 7.3 in 0807 AM 12/27 Public New Canaan 7.2 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 3 SSE Weston 7.1 in 0715 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Bridgeport Airport 7.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs 2 ENE New Canaan 7.1 in 0528 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Brookfield 6.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Bethel 6.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 Emergency Mngr Norwalk 6.4 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 4 SSE Easton 6.2 in 0600 AM 12/27 Public Ridgefield 2.4 NNE 6.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Shelton 6.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Stratford 6.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Bethel 4.5 SSE 6.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 W Stamford 5.9 in 0605 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Stamford 1.0 S 5.4 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Rowayton 5.2 in 0914 AM 12/27 Public 4 NNW Ridgefield 5.2 in 0903 AM 12/27 Public ...Middlesex County... Durham 8.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Old Saybrook 2.9 NNE 8.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Clinton 8.0 in 0645 AM 12/27 Broadcast Media 1 SW Westbrook 7.7 in 0240 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Higganum 7.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Middlefield 1.4 W 6.5 in 0600 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...New Haven County... Wallingford 3.1 N 10.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 NNW Meriden 9.0 in 0350 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Waterbury 8.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 NW Cheshire 8.1 in 0830 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 3 ENE North Branford 7.5 in 0915 AM 12/27 NWS Employee 2 NW Hamden 7.3 in 0647 AM 12/27 Public 4 SSE Durham 7.1 in 0200 AM 12/27 Public Madison Center 1.3 N 7.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Guilford 7.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 CO-OP Observer 3 ENE Branford 6.5 in 0647 AM 12/27 Public Wallingford Center 1.1 N 6.0 in 0828 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 NW Ansonia 6.0 in 0531 AM 12/27 Public 1 SW Branford 5.4 in 0700 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter ...New London County... New London 7.1 in 0730 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 5 SSE Salem 7.0 in 0603 AM 12/27 Public Oakdale 6.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS East Lyme 6.5 in 0600 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Niantic 6.5 in 0530 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Uncasville 2.4 NNW 6.3 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Mystic 6.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Old Lyme 6.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Norwich 6.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COOP Pawcatuck 5.8 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Waterford 5.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Mystic 5.4 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Norwich 4.9 in 0600 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...New Jersey... ...Bergen County... 2 NNE Franklin Lakes 4.1 in 0911 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Montvale 1.8 ESE 4.1 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Oakland 4.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 N River Vale 3.8 in 0801 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Tenafly 3.8 in 0730 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Fair Lawn 3.5 in 0830 AM 12/27 COCORAHS River Edge 0.4 NNE 3.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 S River Edge 3.3 in 0720 AM 12/27 Public North Arlington 3.0 in 0830 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Lyndhurst Twp 1.6 NW 3.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...Essex County... West Orange Twp 0.6 WNW 3.8 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Montclair 3.5 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 W Essex Fells 3.3 in 0933 AM 12/27 Public 1 WSW Glen Ridge 3.2 in 0730 AM 12/27 Public Maplewood 3.1 in 0830 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 2 NE Springfield 3.0 in 0400 AM 12/27 Public ...Hudson County... Harrison 4.0 in 0442 AM 12/27 CO-OP Observer Hoboken 3.9 in 0700 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter ...Passaic County... 3 NE West Milford 4.2 in 0917 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Little Falls 3.6 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...Union County... Newark Airport 4.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs 1 S Mountainside 3.1 in 0900 AM 12/27 Public 1 NNW Westfield 3.0 in 0911 AM 12/27 Public 1 NW Cranford 3.0 in 0717 AM 12/27 Public 1 NE Union 3.0 in 0200 AM 12/27 Public Clark 2.8 in 0846 AM 12/27 COCORAHS New Providence 2.8 in 0730 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 NW Fanwood 1.6 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...New York... ...Bronx County... 1 NNE Fordham 4.3 in 0400 AM 12/27 Public 1 NNE East Tremont 3.0 in 0841 AM 12/27 Public ...Kings County... 1 SSE Williamsburg 4.3 in 0715 AM 12/27 Public Sheepshead Bay 4.0 in 0805 AM 12/27 Public 1 N Bay Ridge 3.1 in 0603 AM 12/27 Public ...Nassau County... Farmingdale 5.0 in 0900 AM 12/27 Public 1 N Syosset 4.6 in 0855 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 SE Malverne 4.1 in 0850 AM 12/27 Cocorahs Massapequa Park 4.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Massapequa 4.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio Malverne 0.5 SE 4.1 in 0630 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 N Centre Island 4.0 in 0529 AM 12/27 Public 1 SW Levittown 4.0 in 0202 AM 12/27 Public 1 WSW Plainview 3.5 in 0841 AM 12/27 Public Carle Place 3.1 in 0645 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio Herricks 2.9 in 0805 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...New York (Manhattan) County... Central Park 4.3 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs ...Orange County... 2 SSW Stewart Airport 5.7 in 0724 AM 12/27 Public 4 SSE Chester 5.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 2 NW Stewart Airport 5.0 in 0628 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio Monroe 5.0 in 0500 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 3 WNW Warwick 4.0 in 0603 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Port Jervis 3.6 in 0630 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...Putnam County... Cold Spring 7.8 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Nelsonville 0.3 S 7.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 2 W Putnam Valley 5.7 in 0605 AM 12/27 NWS Employee ...Queens County... 1 WSW Howard Beach 4.6 in 0701 AM 12/27 Broadcast Media NYC/JFK 4.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs NYC/La Guardia 4.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs 1 SW Russell Gardens 3.9 in 0801 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Little Neck 0.3 SE 3.9 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 NNE Elmhurst 3.7 in 0815 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 2 S Elmhurst 3.5 in 0715 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter ...Rockland County... Stony Point 5.0 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS New City 4.2 in 0815 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter ...Suffolk County... Ridge 1.5 SE 8.0 in 0500 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Babylon 7.5 in 0645 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio Orient 7.5 in 0615 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 W Shirley Airport 7.1 in 0914 AM 12/27 Public Mattituck 7.0 in 0840 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 2 SE Ridge 6.6 in 0904 AM 12/27 NWS Employee Islip Airport 6.6 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs Upton (NWS Office) 6.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 Official NWS Obs 1 WNW East Patchogue 6.3 in 0915 AM 12/27 Public 1 NNE Manorville 6.3 in 0730 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Baiting Hollow 6.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 COOP 1 NNE Sayville 6.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 NWS Employee 2 NNW Islip 6.1 in 0935 AM 12/27 Public 3 WNW Riverhead 6.1 in 0922 AM 12/27 NWS Employee 1 NNW Remsenburg-Speonk 6.1 in 0740 AM 12/27 Public Center Moriches 5.9 in 0600 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 WNW Sound Beach 5.8 in 0700 AM 12/27 NWS Employee Stony Brook 5.8 in 0700 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 SSE Bohemia 5.6 in 0550 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Setauket-East Setauket 2.1 W 5.5 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Blue Point 5.4 in 0818 AM 12/27 Cocorahs Blue Point 0.3 ENE 5.4 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 N Smithtown 5.3 in 0920 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Deer Park 1.0 NE 5.3 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Islip Terrace 0.5 W 5.3 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Deer Park 5.3 in 0600 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Bay Shore 5.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 WSW Poquott 5.2 in 0425 AM 12/27 NWS Employee Sayville 5.1 in 0700 AM 12/27 NWS Employee 1 ESE East Patchogue 5.1 in 0541 AM 12/27 NWS Employee 1 ENE Commack 4.5 in 0807 AM 12/27 Broadcast Media 1 SW Mount Sinai 4.5 in 0739 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 S Nesconset 4.4 in 0933 AM 12/27 Public Mattituck 1.4 SSE 4.2 in 0700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Amityville 4.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS ...Westchester County... Armonk 6.4 in 0200 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter Shrub Oak 6.0 in 0600 AM 12/27 COOP Shrub Oak 6.0 in 0600 AM 12/27 COCORAHS 1 N Port Chester 5.9 in 0857 AM 12/27 Public 2 NNE White Plains 5.8 in 0800 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter 1 SE Croton-on-Hudson 5.7 in 0800 AM 12/27 Trained Spotter White Plains 5.4 in 0800 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio South Salem 5.4 in 0715 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Armonk 5.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS Thornwood 5.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio 1 E Scarsdale 4.5 in 0800 AM 12/27 Public 1 SSE Greenville 4.3 in 0800 AM 12/27 Public Mount Vernon 3.0 in 0800 AM 12/27 Amateur Radio 1 E Pelham Manor 2.8 in 0736 AM 12/27 Public

0.4” this morning. Looks wintry. 15” for the year now

BAM WX says that January -AAM/MJO 6 analogs since 1990 favor cold for most of the central and eastern US. Whether this is 100% true is questionable, but it's still interesting to note.

The models keep changing the long range outlook.

The better workable pattern is moving up closer in time. Here are the day 8 to 13 looks for the 5 day period on the 0z EPS, 6z AI EPS & 6z GEFS.

So far the northern stream clippers have worked out.