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Keep stirring…

And if anyone thinks I’m being a dick to Wolfy this is only 10% dick and 90% busting his balls. Although I do expect one more hurtful reply coming my way.

thought today might be our last 60+ of 2025 but models selling temps at or above 60 in the extended

It was a swing a miss from OKX with Nassau IMO. We have a North & South zones for a reason. Clearly North zones had frost and freeze dependent on location, especially further E in the N zone.

My backyard was at 30 as per the ambient station

Maybe the actual freezing point is skewed?

So many details.

Gotta define it somewhere. Water freezes at 32° so that seems like an appropriate spot.

The CO2 data has been measured with instrumentation since 1950 but okay. Contact an admin. Oh wait.

I kind of agree but officially I guess 32.0 does it?

Lol..ya, consistently wrong.

The data is skewed..period. But Please take to proper thread…Mr. stir the pot.

still waiting for my first frost. the lantana is going strong

Almost time to wake up the thundering herd. Winter lurks in Ohio and it's neighbors....

I was just about to comment on Mark MoreGarbage's post on this ( Yes, I filed him a long time ago before I realized what a goon he was, but never unfollowed him because I get a kick out of his posts ). I asked him whenever has a CFS been a model that we would use, especially for something within about 4 days. This was his response "Well, now you have seen someone use it. I value consistency. In a world where all models are wrong, I pay attention to the ones that give a consistent message." Hey, if this happens I will eat Crow.

Please provide your alternative data, Mr. man of science.

You guys bring the shit up all the time. Take it to the proper thread. And the data isn’t exactly iron clad either..that’s a problem in and of itself. but yes..let’s get back to current weather.

coldest night here so far this fall--a low of 26 and heavy frost.

Almost never see FRG colder than ISP on winter nights.

Miss south, suppression to start the season. Our time will come.

Let’s get a 3’ pack in January and cherry blossoms in February.

Exactly.

Thank you all. I took some more this morning as it is really popping in a few other nearby places in town too.

Football? Yes

hard freeze in Fallston at the farm - first one - growing season finally over.