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Do any of you think we could break the December snow drought, or will it just be cold & dry?

South of NE is more dicey, agree. I like Jan best, but I am not sold on a bad Feb especially for New England and possibly the northern mid atlantic. Gradient patterns can lead to big snows if you are north of the storm track. It is also looking like the polar vortex is going to be especially prone to disruptions this year.

we said that last winter, how did that turn out lol

If only you guys treated excess CO2 like the jab.

Encouraging signal with the AO.

Yeah I’m wooded and on the north side of a hill…and in a decent drought. And the trees still love to hold leaves until turkey day.

I dont think that one or two days of snowflakes a year will be quite the same as a Toronto winter.

True…

This December seems to have decent below normal temp departures in our area, and in the East overall. Snow chances would be elevated. Commodity Wx Group @commoditywx European weekly upper level patterns favor colder than normal 12/5, 12/12, and 12/19 EIA weeks for U.S.

We might. We might not. We just don’t know yet.

Fangs

I think we have a CC thread. Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.

Ya…that’s funny cuz a lot of the October and November snow events have been relatively recent. But believe what you want.

22-23: 114% of avg 23-24: 112% 24-25: 85% Note: The average is "live", such that a 50" winter would push up those percentages by 2% and a 115" winter would decrease it by 1%.

If February was to surprise us to the positive, I doubt we see that coming before mid-January. The best weak Nina to my recollection in the MA was 95/96. But even that had a nasty thaw in January. But odds now certainly favor a lousy February, at least south of NE.

Selfishly I hope you’re wrong since a great December for you means washouts here. But hopefully I get at least a decent event that gets Central Park over 4” for the month.

Looks like a Dec/Jan winter the way it appears now. That would be hard to beat.

But they're increasing overall which is great for Sandbar Scooter. The summer version of Scooter.

Dews have always been around and always will

Yeah how does he think his dews are occuring?

Low of 30.5 so coldest low of season

Data is not left or right, it's data.

I mean he is on the wrn spine there. So his temps aren't warmer. That's what I mean...some species matter. I see it here. Some oaks are bare. Yet here they hang on..albeit definitely earlier leaf drop than recent years.

Crazy, already had 4 days this month at or below freezing. Today was 28.

rgem and euro really hitting the mesolow into chicago, american models naso much