nycsnow Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Ukie eps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM 1 minute ago, wthrmn654 said: Yes they mutual aided is for a tanker that's all that matters euro ai came out way west is what missed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM 6 minutes ago, MJO812 said: I will be staying up until 5 with my newborn. Been there. Good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Sigh, reading this tonight, and it is clear even many long-time posters are just making definitive statements that just were not true. Declaring any model victorious 3.5+ days out is just wild. The EURO is NOT infallible, just like the GFS. Models are human-made and thus not perfect. Weather models are literally attempting to predict the future. There are so many components that can cause so much to go wrong. Each model does have strengths and weaknesses. The GFS does tend to do well with northeastern storms. Sure, it isn’t perfect. We have had big letdowns even within a day. I’ll never forget years ago watching the rain/snow line heading further north than any model had it, and instead of over a foot of snow, we received a few inches. We should talk about patterns and systems and try not to let emotions cloud judgements. Just judging by the tenor of the threads lately, it seems many are ready for spring. But let’s see where things go. Plenty of solutions still on the table. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM 6 minutes ago, MJO812 said: I will be staying up until 5 with my newborn. one day in the future you will be waiting up for them to get home, and worried as hell.....especially when they shut the phone off so you don't bother them.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juturna Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Wagons west! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted yesterday at 12:44 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:44 AM Just now, JustinRP37 said: Sigh, reading this tonight, and it is clear even many long-time posters are just making definitive statements that just were not true. Declaring any model victorious 3.5+ days out is just wild. The EURO is NOT infallible, just like the GFS. Models are human-made and thus not perfect. Weather models are literally attempting to predict the future. There are so many components that can cause so much to go wrong. Each model does have strengths and weaknesses. The GFS does tend to do well with northeastern storms. Sure, it isn’t perfect. We have had big letdowns even within a day. I’ll never forget years ago watching the rain/snow line heading further north than any model had it, and instead of over a foot of snow, we received a few inches. We should talk about patterns and systems and try not to let emotions cloud judgements. Just judging by the tenor of the threads lately, it seems many are ready for spring. But let’s see where things go. Plenty of solutions still on the table. Totally fair, just for my thinking the parallels to the follow up storm a week after 1/25 are undeniable. Of course hoping for a better outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted yesterday at 12:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:48 AM 2 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Sigh, reading this tonight, and it is clear even many long-time posters are just making definitive statements that just were not true. Declaring any model victorious 3.5+ days out is just wild. The EURO is NOT infallible, just like the GFS. Models are human-made and thus not perfect. Weather models are literally attempting to predict the future. There are so many components that can cause so much to go wrong. Each model does have strengths and weaknesses. The GFS does tend to do well with northeastern storms. Sure, it isn’t perfect. We have had big letdowns even within a day. I’ll never forget years ago watching the rain/snow line heading further north than any model had it, and instead of over a foot of snow, we received a few inches. We should talk about patterns and systems and try not to let emotions cloud judgements. Just judging by the tenor of the threads lately, it seems many are ready for spring. But let’s see where things go. Plenty of solutions still on the table. march 2017...and the day before mitchell volk warned that he thought it was possible for the city and nearby suburbs; he was correct; the sleet line went all the way up though north jersey still had a good storm; we had a few inches and the shore had so little a guy posted himself bass fishing in ocean county during " the blizzard"....and he caught a few..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted yesterday at 12:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:48 AM Euro stopped closing off that damn Canadian vort this run! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYER72 Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM Bernie Rayno was saying on Accuweather (yesterday) that this only had a 15% chance of being a SECS. Recall someone saying he was ALWAYS wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Good signs at 18z for sure, if 0z doubles down and adds support from the GGEM it’ll be reason for real optimism. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM we still have 3 days to go and a lot can happen but if it's all the same I am going to go back and reread 10 or 15 pages of posts that were giving this thread last rites and giggle,,,,,,,,in other news keep coming west baby !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM 12 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: Yes they mutual aided is for a tanker Off topic.. is that old camp still out there with a bunch of white shacks and buildings on it? I lived out there for like 5 months working on them old buildings and shacks many moons ago! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM 2 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Good signs at 18z for sure, if 0z doubles down and adds support from the GGEM it’ll be reason for real optimism. Guess I’m going to work on 4 hours sleep tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted yesterday at 12:55 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:55 AM 2 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Guess I’m going to work on 4 hours sleep tomorrow I dont stay up anymore I just look at how many pages there are since I went to bed-lots I know it's good... 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM If 18z trends hold on with the 0z suite I'd say the odds for warning level snows increase significantly for NYC. Still, I'm cautious. We've had the rug pulled out beneath us before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM 2 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Guess I’m going to work on 4 hours sleep tomorrow Very fragile setup like others are saying with a ton of pieces to work out. Could easily go a couple hundred miles back east. But there’s a way for the pieces to come together for a big hit-a phase in the right place, the confluence easing a little and enough ridging ahead of it to allow for a tucked in track. And enough wave spacing to have our storm with enough room to consolidate into a major nor’easter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted yesterday at 12:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:59 AM 10 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: march 2017...and the day before mitchell volk warned that he thought it was possible for the city and nearby suburbs; he was correct; the sleet line went all the way up though north jersey still had a good storm; we had a few inches and the shore had so little a guy posted himself bass fishing in ocean county during " the blizzard"....and he caught a few..... Yes! I think that was the one. I was still in tuckahoe and it quickly went to sleet then plain rain. Then I knew we had a massive bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: I dont stay up anymore I just look at how many pages there are since I went to bed-lots I know it's good... i don't stay up.....but men of a certain age do not sleep all night; so when i have my 3 am wake up i check and usually see it has either fallen apart or looks good....then by morning it will be the opposite. happens every time and people here live and die by runs that mean nothing until a day or so before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM 15 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Sigh, reading this tonight, and it is clear even many long-time posters are just making definitive statements that just were not true. Declaring any model victorious 3.5+ days out is just wild. The EURO is NOT infallible, just like the GFS. Models are human-made and thus not perfect. Weather models are literally attempting to predict the future. There are so many components that can cause so much to go wrong. Each model does have strengths and weaknesses. The GFS does tend to do well with northeastern storms. Sure, it isn’t perfect. We have had big letdowns even within a day. I’ll never forget years ago watching the rain/snow line heading further north than any model had it, and instead of over a foot of snow, we received a few inches. We should talk about patterns and systems and try not to let emotions cloud judgements. Just judging by the tenor of the threads lately, it seems many are ready for spring. But let’s see where things go. Plenty of solutions still on the table. Longtime lurker. Usually lurking for reasons gratefully worded. The models don't care what anyone feels about them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM 3 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Very fragile setup like others are saying with a ton of pieces to work out. Could easily go a couple hundred miles back east. But there’s a way for the pieces to come together for a big hit-a phase in the right place, the confluence easing a little and enough ridging ahead of it to allow for a tucked in track. And enough wave spacing to have our storm with enough room to consolidate into a major nor’easter. We’re getting a lot more recon data in models to hopefully the trend keeps Going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM 12 minutes ago, Blizzardo said: Off topic.. is that old camp still out there with a bunch of white shacks and buildings on it? I lived out there for like 5 months working on them old buildings and shacks many moons ago! Lol I think so. I haven't been in the islands in so many years like when I was a kid lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Upton knew it was coming Something else to note which has been consistent in the EPS Ensemble is that through the last 3 runs (18z 2/18 - 06z 2/19) there has been a pretty large cluster of member lows that are lying just northwest of the mean low location. This gives some confidence to an eventual continued northwest trend even though the ECMWF has consistently been one of the farther/drier solutions. The latest 12z run however has actually had a slight tick to the northwest. This is a trend worth monitoring. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM 3 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Yes! I think that was the one. I was still in tuckahoe and it quickly went to sleet then plain rain. Then I knew we had a massive bust. Mar 2017 was the second worst bust where I live other than Mar 2001, maybe even actually worse. 12”+ predicted, ended up 4” maybe all washed away by the end. Utterly horrendous. Other than that disaster 16-17 was actually a decent winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM It is possible that there may be better agreement with tonight`s guidance as one of the many players is now over the CONUS upper air network and may be sampled better. This is a vigorous shortwave that is currently diving south along the west coast. This shortwave will have some influence on another shortwave/mid level close low farther north in Canada. This interaction could be important because the northern energy may end up being the main driver that digs down and helps spin up the surface low. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted yesterday at 01:07 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:07 AM 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: Mar 2017 was the second worst bust where I live other than Mar 2001, maybe even actually worse. 12”+ predicted, ended up 4” maybe all washed away by the end. Utterly horrendous. Other than that disaster 16-17 was actually a decent winter. In my old stomping grounds the biggest bust was Jan 2015. Interestingly, that one was a Euro bust to the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM 1 minute ago, Nibor said: In my old stomping grounds the biggest bust was Jan 2015. Interestingly, that one was a Euro bust to the GFS. Juno. The Euro and NAM were too far west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted yesterday at 01:12 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:12 AM 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: Juno. The Euro and NAM were too far west And the bust was a rug pull within 24 hours. Horrendous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM IDK? My gut tells me, "It's not coming". I think all this fantasy ends by 18z tomorrow, or 0z Saturday. Not a Met or forecaster, but I just got that feeling. Hopefully I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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