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December Medium/Long Range Discussion


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3 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

Like I said yesterday, models aren't going to pick up discrete threats in the Jan 5-12 timeframe until we get to New Years and that's why the models look dry and "boring". 

Only now the Euro shows something for Jan 6. It won't verify verbatim probably, but something is there. I didn't think it would show a threat this soon.

OTOH, 12z GFS has 2-3 cutters (which probably won't verify verbatim either). 

Do you believe in the Jan mid month warm up before the pattern realigns with an improved Pac?   

Seems the best Jan snow potential is Jan 6 th to the 10 th,  and then after Jan 18 th. 

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Just now, frd said:

Do you believe in the Jan mid month warm up before the pattern realigns with an improved Pac?   

Seems the best Jan snow potential is Jan 6 th to the 10 th,  and then after Jan 18 th. 

I would say that blocking will likely subside around Jan 10-15 before a bigger storm threat around Jan 18-23 with a -EPO/AO/NAO and +PNA

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3 hours ago, WxUSAF said:

My very casual looking the last couple days suggests next chance might be a clipper or some snow along an arctic front around NYD.

And here we go. Its a possibility with NS energy moving along the boundary with a reinforcing cold shot as advertised. Something to keep an eye on.

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4 minutes ago, frd said:

Do you believe in the Jan mid month warm up before the pattern realigns with an improved Pac?   

Seems the best Jan snow potential is Jan 6 th to the 10 th,  and then after Jan 18 th. 

Hard to say. Warm ups have been getting muted as they get closer in time. Storm tracks get pushed south (like it did for NYC today). It's just too chaotic to get a handle on it all until we get inside 120 hours.

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20 minutes ago, Ji said:

it looked good for a while...smh. the primary ended up going to far north

A legit block in place as it approaches would help- as is the HP is in a good spot initially but then shifts further NE. One run though- a few tweaks in the pattern could result in a better outcome.

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1 hour ago, 87storms said:

Yea it’s not about Miller ABC, it’s about whether there’s a southern stream.

That and probably more importantly a north Atlantic block that forces the thermal boundary southward along the coast as an OV low tries to move northeastward, causing a new low to form.

Gotta have more blocking, baby!

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18 minutes ago, stormy said:

The CPC now says trending WET January 1 - 9.       The Euro and GFS says trending DRY Jan.  1 - 9.

Who would You put your money on?   

The CPC has been wrong for so long, they gotta be right some time.  OK CPC,  I believe. 

Take your pick!

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40 minutes ago, stormy said:

The CPC now says trending WET January 1 - 9.       The Euro and GFS says trending DRY Jan.  1 - 9.

Who would You put your money on?   

The CPC has been wrong for so long, they gotta be right some time.  OK CPC,  I believe. 

i always go with the models. With that being said---the euro is not dry for that time period. Its normal with above normal in the gulf

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