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November 2025 OBS Discussion


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13 minutes ago, steve392 said:

So who was the big winner with wind gusts last night?  I thought my house was going to be blown over for a few seconds lol

In the city, LGA recorded 54 MPH; Stony Brook topped the night and recorded 70 MPH.

https://partnerservices.nws.noaa.gov/products/cache/310-2025/PNSOKX/c8517c8ca3014c9eaf203ab033cd0360

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Agree with Walt D. about the possibility of first flakes in the 11/10 - 11/12 period. The GFS, EC, CMC, and ICON show a few different possible scenarios to achieve it. Parts of the mid-Atl may even be favored to get flakes before us.

There should be some steep lapse rates and hopefully snow showers if an ULL swings through (ECM/ICON) and/or in the cold northwest flow that develops behind the rain event (GFS).

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28 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Lets build that snowpack up north 

Such a beautiful part of the country. Saranac Lake and surrounding areas are a great vacation spot. It would be fun to take one of these small airlines up there. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Such a beautiful part of the country. Saranac Lake and surrounding areas are a great vacation spot. It would be fun to take one of these small airlines up there. 

 

 

I've been there winter and summer. It's great in any season really. 

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Tomorrow will be fair with temperatures topping out in the middle and upper 50s. The weekend will be unseasonably mild with Saturday being the warmest day. Highs on Saturday will likely reach the lower and perhaps middle 60s. Newark could again approach or reach 70°.

A strong cold front will then bring this season's coldest temperatures so far early next week. Lows would fall well into the 30s in New York City while highs struggle to reach the middle and upper 40s.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.6°C for the week centered around October 29. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.05°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.52°C. La Niña conditions will likely continue through mid-winter.

The SOI was +27.67 today. 

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.510 today. 

 

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Nov 9-13 may be the only five day interval where some or most people reading this were alive when NYC set its daily record low. After the 9th (1976) two were set in 2017 and two in 2019 (probably on same nights rather than two consecutive nights in each case). 

Two out of three of the winters following these unusual record lows were of course good ones, 2019-20 closer to average by recent standards. Add to this the 2012 snowfall event and this is one of the few times of year to outperform the classic climate of the past in terms of producing cold weather and snow. Not that this necessarily would affect the 30-year average, I suppose there have also been intervals that were well above normal to compensate. The ones that come to mind are a bit earlier such as 1975, 2022 and 2024. 

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22 minutes ago, Roger Smith said:

Nov 9-13 may be the only five day interval where some or most people reading this were alive when NYC set its daily record low. After the 9th (1976) two were set in 2017 and two in 2019 (probably on same nights rather than two consecutive nights in each case). 

Two out of three of the winters following these unusual record lows were of course good ones, 2019-20 closer to average by recent standards. Add to this the 2012 snowfall event and this is one of the few times of year to outperform the classic climate of the past in terms of producing cold weather and snow. Not that this necessarily would affect the 30-year average, I suppose there have also been intervals that were well above normal to compensate. The ones that come to mind are a bit earlier such as 1975, 2022 and 2024. 

2019-20 only had 4.8" at nyc

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