July 2025 General Discussion

[A-L-E-K]

lush and green again after yesterdays storms 

[King James]

Hoping for some good rains today and tomorrow

[A-L-E-K]

23 minutes ago, King James said:

Hoping for some good rains today and tomorrow

miss south stank up this way but got what i needed yesterday

looks solid down there later

[TheClimateChanger]

High temperatures yesterday across Southeast Lower Michigan. Reported highs ranged from 92 at Port Hope, Port Austin, Cass City and Linden, to 102F at Grosse Pointe Farms. The latter looks a little high, but I'm not sure of the microclimate there. The next closest (not shown) was 98F at Selfridge ANG Base. That site is on xMacis, but for some reason, the data doesn't get input until the end of the month. In fact, there are records for Mt. Clemens Area extending back to the 1800s.

Weather Bureau sites, plus Uni. of Mich. (5 pm observation time) and White Lake 4 E (midnight to midnight - NWS office site):

Other co-op sites, with morning observation times. Note that these go into the book as the temperatures for 7/25, but the highs occurred yesterday and the reported lows this morning:

[TheClimateChanger]

Widening out the view. A number of daily record high minima were observed yesterday at long term "threaded" sites... just looking her at places with 100-150+ years of record generally. There were certainly many more at cooperative observer sites and locations with shorter PORs. A number of locations saw low temperatures within 1 or 2F of record highs, and for those locations it was generally the 2nd or 3rd highest low for the date.

Records:

Rockford (74, tied)

South Bend (74, tied)

Huntington, WV (75)

Paducah, KY (78)

Meridian, MS (78)

Jackson, MS (78, tied)

Among maximum temperatures, not many records. Syracuse, New York set a new daily record of 94F. Several locations saw their 2nd or 3rd highest max temperature, but still fell well short of the record. We were competing with a 1934 heat episode that brought all-time record heat to some locations.

[TheClimateChanger]

Looks to stay pretty warm into early next week, but later in the week cooler air is set to infiltrate. August should begin on a mild note, but I would expect hotter weather to return at some point.

[Powerball]

2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

High temperatures yesterday across Southeast Lower Michigan. Reported highs ranged from 92 at Port Hope, Port Austin, Cass City and Linden, to 102F at Grosse Pointe Farms. The latter looks a little high, but I'm not sure of the microclimate there. The next closest (not shown) was 98F at Selfridge ANG Base. That site is on xMacis, but for some reason, the data doesn't get input until the end of the month. In fact, there are records for Mt. Clemens Area extending back to the 1800s.

Weather Bureau sites, plus Uni. of Mich. (5 pm observation time) and White Lake 4 E (midnight to midnight - NWS office site):

Other co-op sites, with morning observation times. Note that these go into the book as the temperatures for 7/25, but the highs occurred yesterday and the reported lows this morning:

I wonder if that observer in Grosse Pointe is the same one that perpetually lowballs their snowfall totals...

[A-L-E-K]

train over south side about to put up numbers

[frostfern]

GRR radar undergoing maintenance, spuds pop up.  Coincidence?

[michsnowfreak]

58 minutes ago, Powerball said:

I wonder if that observer in Grosse Pointe is the same one that perpetually lowballs their snowfall totals...

The funny thing is Grosse Pointe snowfall numbers seemed more realistic the past few years many times. They used to be a joke. 

Obviously the 102° is wrong. Grosse Pointe if anything should be cooler due to its proximity to the water. 

[michsnowfreak]

Thought this was interesting. 90° days in the US are 23rd lowest on record to date.

 

[Powerball]

28 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Thought this was interesting. 90° days in the US are 23rd lowest on record to date.

 

DFW still has yet to hit 100*F this year, although that may change today.

[hawkeye_wx]

It's unclear what tonight's disturbance will produce up here.  Some models bring it up here and dump good rain, while other models keep it farther south and just scrape us with the fringe.

[TheClimateChanger]

53 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Thought this was interesting. 90° days in the US are 23rd lowest on record to date.

 

That's a misleading graphic. The distribution of stations has changed over time with more high elevation sites across the country than there were in the past. Moreover, most sites had afternoon/evening observation times before the 1960s-1990s, which results in somewhat of an overcount on metrics like these (e.g., day has high of 95F, at 5 pm, the observation temp is 92F... the next day's high is recorded as 92F, even if it might have only reached 84F).

[frostfern]

Small low topped CB just wondering around the SW side of town teasing.  Again not tall enough for thunder.  It seems like the updraft has to reach the tropopause before it can get beefy enough to spread rain on more then 1 square mile at a time. 

[A-L-E-K]

18z hrrr with another training setup

[michsnowfreak]

Our last measurable rain here was July 12. The forecast is peppered with "chance of storms" "chance of storms"...but will any actually produce here?

[cyclone77]

Nice clump of MCV convection slowly swirling this way.  Putting down quite a bit of rain along it's swath out over Iowa.

EDIT:  Jinxed it.  It's on the decline now on approach lol

EDIT2:  Had a period of gentle anvil rain.  Picked up 0.14".  Good chance the late night stuff hits us good though with some heavy rainfall potential then.

[Chinook]

8 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Widening out the view. A number of daily record high minima were observed yesterday at long term "threaded" sites... just looking her at places with 100-150+ years of record generally. There were certainly many more at cooperative observer sites and locations with shorter PORs. A number of locations saw low temperatures within 1 or 2F of record highs, and for those locations it was generally the 2nd or 3rd highest low for the date.

Records:

Rockford (74, tied)

South Bend (74, tied)

Huntington, WV (75)

Paducah, KY (78)

Meridian, MS (78)

Jackson, MS (78, tied)

Among maximum temperatures, not many records. Syracuse, New York set a new daily record of 94F. Several locations saw their 2nd or 3rd highest max temperature, but still fell well short of the record. We were competing with a 1934 heat episode that brought all-time record heat to some locations.

I saved this the other day, #1 hottest 30-day period for New York

[King James]

That's a misleading graphic. The distribution of stations has changed over time with more high elevation sites across the country than there were in the past. Moreover, most sites had afternoon/evening observation times before the 1960s-1990s, which results in somewhat of an overcount on metrics like these (e.g., day has high of 95F, at 5 pm, the observation temp is 92F... the next day's high is recorded as 92F, even if it might have only reached 84F).

Ban this dude

[TheClimateChanger]

21 minutes ago, King James said:

Ban this dude

Me? Are you joking? The context I provided about that chart is 100% correct. The claim that this is the “23rd lowest percentage of 90 degree days” is 100% made-up BS.

[King James]

Sure bud

[hawkeye_wx]

The south models were correct about this morning's rain.  I'm only getting some very light rain on the northern edge.

[TheClimateChanger]

Why are you guys acting like this? I didn’t do anything to any of you. That is a FAKE graphic. Calling for me to banned for pointing that out? Like wtf?

[King James]

Why are you guys acting like this? I didn’t do anything to any of you. That is a FAKE graphic. Calling for me to banned for pointing that out? Like wtf?

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Looks like the appropriate forum for your interests. Those interested in that topic can follow you over there, no?

[TheClimateChanger]

5 minutes ago, King James said:

Climate Change
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Looks like the appropriate forum for your interests. Those interested in that topic can follow you over there, no?

I didn’t post anything about climate change. Posting observed temperatures and highlighting records from the recent heat wave is relevant weather related discussion. This is a weather board, no?

[King James]

What heat wave? It was “hot” for 2 days this week. Lol this guy. He’s ruining your forum boys with his hysterics

[Brian D]

20 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

That's a misleading graphic. The distribution of stations has changed over time with more high elevation sites across the country than there were in the past. Moreover, most sites had afternoon/evening observation times before the 1960s-1990s, which results in somewhat of an overcount on metrics like these (e.g., day has high of 95F, at 5 pm, the observation temp is 92F... the next day's high is recorded as 92F, even if it might have only reached 84F).

Actually it isn't. That's USHCN data, so stns are the same. That dataset doesn't flip stns around. If data is missing, they estimate for the month.  Secondly, I've seen a comparison of aftrn n morning stns for max temps, and the pattern is very similar. Sorry I don't have those graphs.

 

The issue we are seeing now isn't max temps so much as higher mins, and less winter cold. 

[sbnwx85]

Got some nice crackling thunder and heavy rain this morning. Quality summertime storm.

[michsnowfreak]

We got 0.11" overnight. DTW got 0.43". First measurable rain in exactly 2 weeks