powderfreak Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, ineedsnow said: meh do we live there? also not counting lows it wouldn't be close.. dews were impressive though 36 minutes ago, Brewbeer said: July will be remembered more for the humidity than anything else in my book. More days of AC required than any other July in recent memory. Humidity is what leads to our hottest months relative to normal as a mean temperature. Like Brewbeer said, it’s probably the most AC usage we’ll see. If you cannot cool off at night, that almost has more societal impacts than daytime. People expect the daytime to be hot/warm. But if it’s 75F all night… that’s when things get real abnormal. I don’t get the tossing of overnight summer warmth like it’s not important in this discussion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Humidity is what leads to our hottest months relative to normal as a mean temperature. Like Brewbeer said, it’s probably the most AC usage we’ll see. If you cannot cool off at night, that almost has more societal impacts than daytime. People expect the daytime to be hot/warm. But if it’s 75F all night… that’s when things get real abnormal. I don’t get the tossing of overnight summer warmth like it’s not important in this discussion. Whatever fits ACATT agenda 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, CoastalWx said: Whatever fits ACATat agenda 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Humidity is what leads to our hottest months relative to normal as a mean temperature. Like Brewbeer said, it’s probably the most AC usage we’ll see. If you cannot cool off at night, that almost has more societal impacts than daytime. People expect the daytime to be hot/warm. But if it’s 75F all night… that’s when things get real abnormal. I don’t get the tossing of overnight summer warmth like it’s not important in this discussion. Nighttime doesn't matter to me but then again I'm cuddled up in my room with the a/c on 62.. if i didn't have it I would say this July was miserable but thankfully fortunate enough to have it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/12/2025 at 10:24 PM, ineedsnow said: but that would include overnight temps .. its not a hot pattern.. if it wasn't for overnight lows this month might average below by the time its finished Do you really want to give Kevin shit when you have this mid month gem? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiator Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Incoming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, dendrite said: Do you really want to give Kevin shit when you have this mid month gem? Meh I have a few for him.. I already admitted I was wrong but for some reason he cant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, ineedsnow said: Meh I have a few for him.. I already admitted I was wrong but for some reason he cant He had a good call. Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, dendrite said: He had a good call. Lol He said top 5 and just this morning he said it was.. it wasnt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 And every year he says hot and humid from start to finish so there's that 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry's Weather Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 My pumpkins need this rain (and subsequent cool stretch). My jack-o-lanterns are dropping all their female flowers pre-bloom due to heat stress, and seeing as we are coming up on Aug, time is ticking… Sugar baby watermelons though, doing just fine 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, ineedsnow said: He said top 5 and just this morning he said it was.. it wasnt It was top 5 in spots or close to it. 150 years of data. lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: He had a good call. Lol I thought he said top five? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, ineedsnow said: And every year he says hot and humid from start to finish so there's that And guess what? It is. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, dendrite said: It was top 5 in spots or close to it. 150 years of data. lol Why don't we just make it the hottest ever and call it a day. Close enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, dendrite said: It was top 5 in spots or close to it. 150 years of data. lol Top 10 to 15.. he also said no lows in the 40s in SNE. Stein for today.. I could keep going but I'm at the dentist waiting to go in so don't have the time lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 ACATT off the rails 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 25 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: So basically summer doing what summer does. Above normal as far as temps go. Less precip than normal. More humid than normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, dendrite said: ACATT off the rails Don't know where you went to school but in mine if the teacher asked what's 6 + 6 and you answered 5 you would be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, kdxken said: Don't know where you went to school but in mine if the teacher asked what's 6 + 6 and you answered 5 you would be wrong. We’re comparing a LR forecast to simple addition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: Top 10 to 15.. he also said no lows in the 40s in SNE. Stein for today.. I could keep going but I'm at the dentist waiting to go in so don't have the time lol Tell them you’ve already had plenty of novocaine this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 ACATT gone wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Will be a wet month here thanks to 7/10. Might get to 10-11” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: We’re comparing a LR forecast to simple addition? Not trying to be a smartass, just generally curious… which sites have 150 years of data… I assume BHO…CON? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: Not trying to be a smartass, just generally curious… which sites have 150 years of data… I assume BHO…CON? BOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 @dendrite BHO is using the instrumentation at the top of the hill correct? I see Blue Hill COOP in the Nowdata. I ask because I see 96 and 95 there for the last two days. Scratching my head a bit at those values, but I suppose it could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Rampant drunkenness in here today lol. Mod excessive rainfall risk extended into SW CT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: And every year he says hot and humid from start to finish so there's that You just listed the last three summers for ORE… they are all like top 5-10 heaters. I dunno, I applaud you guys for the fight. I gave in a couple summers ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, dendrite said: BOS Wasn’t BOS well inland for a while? (Which would make it even more impressive if that were the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 14 minutes ago, dendrite said: We’re comparing a LR forecast to simple addition? How about short-term? Is this rain missing us to the south? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/29/2025 at 1:02 PM, Typhoon Tip said: Mm the signal performed ... it just didn't extend as far as it could have, given those indicators as they appeared at the beginning of the month. There's multiple sources available on the web for cumulative means, but this blw is from the PRISM group/Oregon State U. It shows through the 28th where the anomalies, relative to normal climatology, have amassed over the last 4 weeks. This is impressive enough ... given this is a month's worth of aggregated data. There were probably individual days per the course that were greater, as there were days lower than this mean anomaly. It's going to be tough to put up mean anomalies that extend much above +5 in July, compared to say ...March, because July is a perennial climate ceiling in the temperature curve. It is more constrained by broader systemic limitations at the higher side. I am having trouble loading NCEI's Climate at a Glance, seems to load better at the end of each day. But I think I did undersell this July a bit. Looking at the numbers, I think a lot of statewide means will come in significantly higher than shown by the urban stations. Rural and high elevation sites looked to be the most above normal, which aren't really reflected in the numbers. I didn't look at New England, but I think a Top 5 hottest July on record is on tap for New York (~4), New Jersey (~2), Pennsylvania (~4), West Virginia (~3), Virginia (~3), Maryland (~2 or 3) and other states. Ohio looked like around 11th place, but a top 10 is possible. Some of these mountainous locations were throwing up unprecedented minimum temperatures. PRISM has this at +1.464F nationally (relative to 1991-2020), which is a very impressive tally for July. I will note, however, that NCEI has tended to come in somewhat lower with anomalies in recent years (as a general rule). So that might be a little inflated. However, if it's in the ballpark with NCEI, we are well within striking distance of a record hot summer. The current record is +1.67F for JJA set in 1936 & tied in 2021. The thing about those summers is they were driven by DRY heat. 1936 was one of the driest years on record (e.g., hottest on record at Des Moines but also lowest mean dewpoint by a long margin). 2021 was driven by extreme anomalies in the arid western U.S. This is another beast altogether... the combination of heat & humidity might just be the most extreme since records have been kept. This summer would also likely do better on a population-weighted basis. 1936 was driven by insane anomalies in places where nobody lives, especially in that era (e.g., North & South Dakota). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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