July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[JustinRP37]

The problem with the heat and humidity here in the NYC Metro is we still don't "slow down" as much as places in the tropics. People in the tropics, even in Florida, tend to work on "island time". I still chuckle though with the people that are either forced to wear suits in this heat or they love to feel like a wet dog. 

[cannoliman42]

Absolutely pouring in Astoria, Queens. Honestly haven't seen rain like this in a couple of years. Streets are flooding.

[Sundog]

It would have been nice for the JFK radar to be working, but I'd be expecting too much. 

Over the years with constant outages among the different radars I've gotten used to it. 

[LibertyBell]

40 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

The problem with the heat and humidity here in the NYC Metro is we still don't "slow down" as much as places in the tropics. People in the tropics, even in Florida, tend to work on "island time". I still chuckle though with the people that are either forced to wear suits in this heat or they love to feel like a wet dog. 

I also think they build differently, their buildings don't trap heat like ours do.

[jm1220]

Few drops here. Looks like the usual collapse over the city before it gets here. Central Nassau looks like some heavy rain. 

[LibertyBell]

19 minutes ago, Sundog said:

It would have been nice for the JFK radar to be working, but I'd be expecting too much. 

Over the years with constant outages among the different radars I've gotten used to it. 

Maybe one day we will be able to make and install our own rooftop radars.

[Sundog]

Interestingly the wind veered out of the east strongly with this last tail end of this heavy cell moving through Queens. 

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Maybe one day we will be able to make and install our own rooftop radars.

Lol that would be sick 

[Sundog]

Man the wind is blasting out of the east, switched suddenly a few minutes ago

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

Tomorrow could be unhealthy. Then, we'll see whether the heavy rain later tomorrow and Friday can wash the particulates out of the air.

it's interesting how the really long 7+ day heatwaves have become very rare, our last one was in 2013.

Any thoughts on why this has happened Don? Are frontal passages during the summer becoming more common?

I remember during the megaheatwave in July 1993 that lasted 10 days that there was no frontal passage for almost 2 weeks lol.

In July 1999 we had an 11 day heatwave without any frontal passages too!!

My hottest summers prior to 2010: 1993, 1999 and 2002 each had multiple heatwaves of 7+ days.

 

[Sundog]

It's like a noreaster out there with these east winds and rain, weird

[jm1220]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Interestingly the wind veered out of the east strongly with this last tail end of this heavy cell moving through Queens. 

Outflow coming from the storm moving east. Also the storm is collapsing due to becoming dominated by downdrafts. You can see the outflow boundary racing south on radar. 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Lol that would be sick 

I thought of that when I read something recently about being able to make your own portable particle collider lol.  When you turn the lights out you can actually see the particles glow as they collide.

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

It's like a noreaster out there with these east winds and rain, weird

wow it's still partly sunny here

did you make it to 99 again today??

[LibertyBell]

Just now, jm1220 said:

Outflow coming from the storm moving east. Also the storm is collapsing due to becoming dominated by downdrafts. 

I hope we don't see a heatburst lol

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow it's still partly sunny here

did you make it to 99 again today??

Maxed out a hair under 99.

[psv88]

14 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Few drops here. Looks like the usual collapse over the city before it gets here. Central Nassau looks like some heavy rain. 

Yup. It’s 86/73 and we can’t buy a storm. Incredible 

[jm1220]

Just now, psv88 said:

Yup. It’s 86/73 and we can’t buy a storm. Incredible 

Yawn, and probably greater than 50-50 chance that tomorrow into Fri is more yawn while north and west gets soaked again. At least the heat goes away after today and we have a nice weekend. 

[guinness77]

Damn, those storms appear to have hit a brick wall in mid-Nassau. 

[donsutherland1]

22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's interesting how the really long 7+ day heatwaves have become very rare, our last one was in 2013.

Any thoughts on why this has happened Don? Are frontal passages during the summer becoming more common?

I remember during the megaheatwave in July 1993 that lasted 10 days that there was no frontal passage for almost 2 weeks lol.

In July 1999 we had an 11 day heatwave without any frontal passages too!!

My hottest summers prior to 2010: 1993, 1999 and 2002 each had multiple heatwaves of 7+ days.

 

I suspect the changes in Atlantic and Pacific SSTAs have played a role in influencing synoptic patterns and their durability. Out in the Southwest, heat now locks in for longer durations. Heatwaves are more variable in the East (probably a combination of the patterns + wetter climate). 

Central Park notwithstanding, the region is having a hot summer so far. 

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

I suspect the changes in Atlantic and Pacific SSTAs have played a role in influencing synoptic patterns and their durability. Out in the Southwest, heat now locks in for longer durations. Heatwaves are more variable in the East (probably a combination of the patterns + wetter climate). 

Central Park notwithstanding, the region is having a hot summer so far. 

Yes my best summer since 2010.  But even in 2010 we did not have any 7+ day heatwaves from what I remember, but it was my hottest summer for 90,95 and 100 degree days.

32/11/3 in that department!!!

 

[LibertyBell]

23 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Yawn, and probably greater than 50-50 chance that tomorrow into Fri is more yawn while north and west gets soaked again. At least the heat goes away after today and we have a nice weekend. 

so maybe it won't be like 2011 after all lol

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, guinness77 said:

Damn, those storms appear to have hit a brick wall in mid-Nassau. 

SW Nassau didn't even go completely cloudy lol

[LibertyBell]

12 minutes ago, guinness77 said:

Damn, those storms appear to have hit a brick wall in mid-Nassau. 

I didn't even hear thunder

[SACRUS]

 

 

Highs:
 

TEB: 100
EWR: 100
LGA: 99
PHL: 97
ACY: 97
New Brnswck: 96
ISP: 96
NYC: 95
TTN: 95
JFK: 94 * no intra hour readings
BLM: 92 * missing most data (7/29-7/30)

[nycwinter]

76 in the city after the heavy downpour

[psv88]

Light rain and 82. Just enough rain to make it nasty outside 

[SACRUS]

 

Last of the visble loops and you can see the clouds into W Q-NY and W-PA likely 10 - 12 hours transport has us cloudy in the morning, we'll see if enough sun can get anyone to 90 tomorrow.

 

[dWave]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

I also think they build differently, their buildings don't trap heat like ours do.

Thats true. And central AC is much more common down there. Northeast cities were developed before they was AC or even cars. Down there people go from central ac home, to ac in the car, drive to store with ac and ample parking nearby. Meanwhile people in NY tend to experience the weather more directly every day.

Subway platforms, while always super hot, felt like a new level today. If records were kept on that, it would of broke it. Somewhere in the 110s wouldn't be surprising at stations like Union Sq or BK Bridge.

[TheClimateChanger]

I project a mean July temperature of approximately 72.2F (+/- 0.5F) for the statewide average, which would make 2025 the 4th hottest July (and 4th hottest of any month) for the State of New York.