LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I salute this run Indeed, it looks like we have some run to run consistency now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Drunk? Don't you become a qpf queen now How is Kuchera calculated? The regular maps have 20 inches here and the Kuchera has 35 lol. I suspect the regular is more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I think SW is pretty well sampled now....maybe a bit better 12z tmw? There are flights being sent in tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Oh! Let not forget that Southwest does Not fly at night, nor takes a chance flying into places where planes will get stuck Even if they can get in. So even though I have $2000 with them in various points and Vouchers, I don't want to cancel Thursday events and fly all day Thursday, so I'd have to pay probably $400+ on a Redeye on Thursday night. AND not sleep. AND change my flights to my next stop in Alabama. It's way Way way too much. I was home November through January 18th. I waited long enough. This ain't happening. Have everyone FaceTime me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: This is an Absurdly Difficult Call. I would be pissing off about 40 different people in about 5 different friend groups, miss a Recording, miss a $1000 private gig, basically not get money back for the early returned rental car, Miss Sledding in the Snow at Mt. Whitney up Rte. 2 in LA, and Miss about 7 flipping meetings. Again. Unless I'm 90% GUARANTEED 24", I can Not do this. Then your best call is it not cancel and come home. You will never, ever have 90% probs of a MINIMUM of 24" even in a 12 hour window. Never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Henry's Weather said: In that electric Seahawks 12th man green. I remember checking the 4 PM update for Feb 6th, 2013 as a wee weenie, and since I'd never seen a blizzard watch before, I was worried it was a flood watch and that the track had dramatically shifted west! 4th grade me was very excited for his first two foot event as a sentient being wait, what were you before you were a sentient being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, The 4 Seasons said: Then your best call is it not cancel and come home. You will never, ever have 90% probs of a MINIMUM of 24" even in a 12 hour window. Never. I could see a 90 pct probability of 18 inches but not 24. It's very hard to get that kind of 24 inch coverage in even the largest storms....not even Jan 1996 or Jan 2016 had that here even though we had widespread 20 inch plus in Jan 1996 and widespread 24 inch plus in Jan 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, TheSnowman said: Oh! Let not forget that Southwest does Not fly at night, nor takes a chance flying into places where planes will get stuck Even if they can get in. So even though I have $2000 with them in various points and Vouchers, I don't want to cancel Thursday events and fly all day Thursday, so I'd have to pay probably $400+ on a Redeye on Thursday night. AND not sleep. AND change my flights to my next stop in Alabama. It's way Way way too much. I was home November through January 18th. I waited long enough. This ain't happening. Have everyone FaceTime me. Dont feel bad man i missed Feb 2003 (PD2), Oct 2011, Jan 2011 and Feb 2013. You'll get more chances for big ones in the future, doesn't sound like the risk, inconvenience, sleep deprivation, loss of money and everything else is worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: WOR....STOP WORRYING. You have margin for error on that map, and keep in mind...I agree east kicks are still likely, but model QPF is NOT going to capture the full extent of that deformation, so its not far enough west to begin with. NVM that this has so much s stream origin. This is NOT Juno....this is NOT March 2018.....this is on another level as far as regional impact, though probably similar east. This will be the most severe regional impactor in 9 years- Period. yep! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Dont feel bad man i missed Feb 2003 (PD2), Oct 2011, Jan 2011 and Feb 2013. You'll get more chances for big ones in the future, doesn't sound like the risk, inconvenience, sleep deprivation, loss of money and everything else is worth it. Regardless of how big the big ones get, there is just something emotional about the first one. April 1982 and Feb 1983 were my first big ones, and I loved them and was very excited to experience them but I was only 8 and 9 years old and there was no internet so no tracking outside of local tv reports. Jan 1996 was the first all snow snowstorm I avidly followed so that one will always hold a special place in my heart (also because of the 13 year HECS drought here, unimaginable today), but there was no internet for me back then so it was all tracking via local news. Seeing 2 and 3 foot snowfall amounts predicted for the first time in my life was absolutely amazing. I still say to this day that the snowfall amounts measured locally were lower than reality, because the 20-21 inches supposedly measured in Jan 1996 was exceeded by the 26 inches measured in PD2 and then the 31 inches measured in Jan 2016. But the supposed 20-21 inches in Jan 1996 looked a lot higher than the 26 inches in PD2 and probably close to the level of the 31 inches measured in Jan 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: Oh! Let not forget that Southwest does Not fly at night, nor takes a chance flying into places where planes will get stuck Even if they can get in. So even though I have $2000 with them in various points and Vouchers, I don't want to cancel Thursday events and fly all day Thursday, so I'd have to pay probably $400+ on a Redeye on Thursday night. AND not sleep. AND change my flights to my next stop in Alabama. It's way Way way too much. I was home November through January 18th. I waited long enough. This ain't happening. Have everyone FaceTime me. I have already told you what to do...why bother to ask? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: How is Kuchera calculated? The regular maps have 20 inches here and the Kuchera has 35 lol. I suspect the regular is more accurate. Ratios will not be 10:1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Ratios will not be 10:1. With a lot of wind and the long duration of the snowfall, how high can the ratios get? Maybe 12:1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Regardless of how big the big ones get, there is just something emotional about the first one. April 1982 and Feb 1983 were my first big ones, and I loved them and was very excited to experience them but I was only 8 and 9 years old and there was no internet so no tracking outside of local tv reports. Jan 1996 was the first all snow snowstorm I avidly followed so that one will always hold a special place in my heart (also because of the 13 year HECS drought here, unimaginable today), but there was no internet for me back then so it was all tracking via local news. Seeing 2 and 3 foot snowfall amounts predicted for the first time in my life was absolutely amazing. I still say to this day that the snowfall amounts measured locally were lower than reality, because the 20-21 inches supposedly measured in Jan 1996 was exceeded by the 26 inches measured in PD2 and then the 31 inches measured in Jan 2016. But the supposed 20-21 inches in Jan 1996 looked a lot higher than the 26 inches in PD2 and probably close to the level of the 31 inches measured in Jan 2016. I agree. Feb 5th 2001 and Mar 4-6th 2001 are still #1 and #2 for me despite having many storms that have eclipsed those in the snowfall department. Seeing CG thundersnow that strikes like 100ft from you in the middle of blinding snow when you didn't even know that was possible changes you when you're a kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Dont feel bad man i missed Feb 2003 (PD2), Oct 2011, Jan 2011 and Feb 2013. You'll get more chances for big ones in the future, doesn't sound like the risk, inconvenience, sleep deprivation, loss of money and everything else is worth it. I missed the Buzzsaw of 2011 (20" in 12 hours), February of 2017 (18" in 10 hours), March of 2018 (21" in 12 hours). But I FLEW HOME for March 2017 from the Netherlands, missed being on TV there, sorrento $700, and getting a lap of Zandvoort. Got home for 9.5" of glop. I'm 0-3 staying and 0-1 coming home. Not worth going through the hell. I'll just accept going 0-4. And WHY ARE YOU GUYS UP AT 3:30am?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: I agree. Feb 5th 2001 and Mar 4-6th 2001 are still #1 and #2 for me despite having many storms that have eclipsed those in the snowfall department. Seeing CG thundersnow that strikes like 100ft from you in the middle of blinding snow when you didn't even know that was possible changes you when you're a kid. Thundersnow is the best and most memorable part of the big ones (especially CG....I think I've only experienced that once and that was in Feb 1994 and it was both thrilling and scary at the same time.) The best part is when the heaviest snows occur during the day, so that's important too. I remember when I experienced CG heavy snowfall in Feb 1994 and I still say that was some of the heaviest snowfall rates I've ever experienced....we literally went from bare ground to 8 inches in like 2 hours lol. Best part was it happened between 10 am and noon. I was having breakfast that morning to bare ground and had 2 foot drifts by lunch time lol.... Jan 2016 and Jan 2017 (back to back years curiously enough) were my longest periods of daytime white out (confirmed blizzard) conditions, which I also really enjoy, zero visibility with heavy snow. I think Jan 2017 set the surge record at Boston if I'm not mistaken? What an amazing storm that was. All day heavy snow and zero visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: I missed the Buzzsaw of 2011 (20" in 12 hours), February of 2017 (18" in 10 hours), March of 2018 (21" in 12 hours). But I FLEW HOME for March 2017 from the Netherlands, missed being on TV there, sorrento $700, and getting a lap of Zandvoort. Got home for 9.5" of glop. I'm 0-3 staying and 0-1 coming home. Not worth going through the hell. I'll just accept going 0-4. And WHY ARE YOU GUYS UP AT 3:30am?? Strategically oriented my sleep patterns for these late night runs. Went to sleep at 9 PM and woke up at 1 AM lol. Will go back to sleep at 4 AM and wake back up by 9 AM....so 9 hours of sleep but in unconventional way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just want to point out models can shift NW even inside 24hrs to go time, we likely won't have a definite answer until 0z FridaySent from my SM-S115DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 And just for giggles, have the 6z NAM hr84Sent from my SM-S115DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 East shifts continue on Nam. Areas outside of eastern SNE likely to get shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: East shifts continue on Nam. Areas outside of eastern SNE likely to get shafted. Not a good trend right now. Hopefully they were all blips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Lurker Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Toss the nam at 84 hours.Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Not a good trend right now. Hopefully they were all blips. NAM beyond 48 hours is less than useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: East shifts continue on Nam. Areas outside of eastern SNE likely to get shafted. Using the NAM beyond 48 hours is like trying to divide by zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: How is Kuchera calculated? The regular maps have 20 inches here and the Kuchera has 35 lol. I suspect the regular is more accurate. Ratios with temps very low top to bottom and maximized growth in the dgz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 NAM cranking heading Due North at the end. Would be a monster hit here. NYC folks should panic in there sub forum thanks 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Using the NAM beyond 48 hours is like trying to divide by zero. The NAM is just about guaranteed to show a monster hit for all of SNE and near complete whiff in the next 84 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, weathafella said: Wait-you were in 4th grade in 2013? You come off much more mature than expected if that’s true! That makes you about 18 now? Great to see another budding star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6Z GFS marginally better than 00Z. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We'll take it, 12Z with new upper air data will be much more important than these off hour runs anyway. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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