Upstate/Eastern New York

[BuffaloWeather]

GEFS

[BuffaloWeather]

Wolf you're in a legit perfect spot. You get pounded in winter, retain snow, and get solid warm/sunny summers. Pretty close to towns/cities too, 20 or so minutes?

[wolfie09]

1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Wolf you're in a legit perfect spot. You get pounded in winter, retain snow, and get solid warm/sunny summers. Pretty close to towns/cities too, 20 or so minutes?

A little bit farther than that but I can get most of my needs in Pulaski about 6 miles away.. I'm 30 miles from smaller cities like Oswego and Fulton and about 40 miles from Syracuse and Watertown..

[wolfie09]

Euro fwiw

[wolfie09]

FREEZE WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY
MORNING...

* WHAT...Sub-freezing temperatures in the upper 20s to lower 30s
  possible.

* WHERE...Niagara, Orleans, Monroe, Wayne, Northern Cayuga,
  Oswego, Erie, Genesee, Wyoming, Livingston, Ontario, and
  Chautauqua counties.

* WHEN...From late Monday night through Tuesday morning.

* IMPACTS...Frost and freeze conditions could kill crops and
  other sensitive vegetation.

[wolfie09]

Not to surprising lol

[wolfie09]

[TugHillMatt]

70 this weekend...snow next weekend! 5 months of November and 2 months of March. lol

[Ericjcrash]

Lol. Nothing like a 6-8" may snowfall. "Too bad" the euro only thinks 3". Wild.

[wolfie09]

[lakeeffectkid383]

GFS has .8” QPF with temps near or below freezing at BUF on May 9th! Insane. Could see accumulating snow even at lower elevations. I’m not expecting much here but even if we got a solid coating that would be crazy given the time. I could see the higher elevations seeing several inches. Regardless the cold got this time of year is certainly going to be memorable. 

[brentrich]

Another epic cold shot re-loading in middle of May, makes me so happy!   No spring/summer this year? 

[wolfie09]

Gfs not far off from the European, just less snow towards the lakes..

 

[Ericjcrash]

1 hour ago, wolfie09 said:

Gfs not far off from the European, just less snow towards the lakes..

 

I'll take my 7"

[vortmax]

Haha, good to see more snow hounds on the site...bring it on, but give me sunny and 70 in-between.

[Ericjcrash]

Euro just got better for me. Looking like a fun Friday evening. What a bizzare season(s).

[wolfie09]

Well below normal temperatures are a certainty through next weekend
and beyond as a deep longwave trough remains anchored over eastern
North America. In fact, it will turn even colder Friday through the
weekend, with some areas across the higher terrain possibly not
getting out of the 30s for high temperatures on Friday and Saturday.
A highly amplified +PNA pattern will continue for at least the next
10 days, with a strong western ridge and eastern trough. This will
continue to direct fresh batches of modified arctic air southward
into the Great Lakes and New England.

Looking at the details, a potent mid level shortwave will cross the
eastern Great Lakes Thursday night, along with an attendant cold
front. This will bring an increasing chance of showers, which may
mix with some wet snow overnight as cold advection increases.

Friday and Saturday the trough reloads across the Great Lakes, with
a highly anomalous 525DM or lower 500MB vortex dropping into the
Great Lakes and New England, while a secondary push of even colder
air in the low levels pours across the region on Friday. While the
large scale pattern is well agreed upon in model guidance, there has
been a good deal variability in the synoptic scale features with
most model guidance suggesting several embedded shortwaves and
associated surface lows crossing the Great Lakes Friday and
Saturday. Given the timing and placement differences from run to
run, it remains difficult to pin down the most likely time frame of
precipitation.

That said, the strong upper level trough and deep instability
beneath the cold pool will support scattered to numerous rain and
wet snow showers Friday and both days this weekend, with some lake
response possible downwind of the lakes during the overnight and
early mornings as 850MB temperatures become sufficiently cold
enough. Cold temperatures will continue Saturday, with highs only in
the low to mid 40s at best, if there are breaks of sun. Overcast
skies would only yield highs in the upper 30s given 850mb temps
approaching -10C, with some areas across the higher terrain possibly
not getting out of the upper 30s either way.

The airmass will begin to modify a little by Monday, but
temperatures will still run well below normal. Another low is
forecast to move through the Ohio Valley and eastern Great Lakes,
bringing a chance of some additional rain and wet snow showers.

[lakeeffectkid383]

32 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Well below normal temperatures are a certainty through next weekend
and beyond as a deep longwave trough remains anchored over eastern
North America. In fact, it will turn even colder Friday through the
weekend, with some areas across the higher terrain possibly not
getting out of the 30s for high temperatures on Friday and Saturday.
A highly amplified +PNA pattern will continue for at least the next
10 days, with a strong western ridge and eastern trough. This will
continue to direct fresh batches of modified arctic air southward
into the Great Lakes and New England.

Looking at the details, a potent mid level shortwave will cross the
eastern Great Lakes Thursday night, along with an attendant cold
front. This will bring an increasing chance of showers, which may
mix with some wet snow overnight as cold advection increases.

Friday and Saturday the trough reloads across the Great Lakes, with
a highly anomalous 525DM or lower 500MB vortex dropping into the
Great Lakes and New England, while a secondary push of even colder
air in the low levels pours across the region on Friday. While the
large scale pattern is well agreed upon in model guidance, there has
been a good deal variability in the synoptic scale features with
most model guidance suggesting several embedded shortwaves and
associated surface lows crossing the Great Lakes Friday and
Saturday. Given the timing and placement differences from run to
run, it remains difficult to pin down the most likely time frame of
precipitation.

That said, the strong upper level trough and deep instability
beneath the cold pool will support scattered to numerous rain and
wet snow showers Friday and both days this weekend, with some lake
response possible downwind of the lakes during the overnight and
early mornings as 850MB temperatures become sufficiently cold
enough. Cold temperatures will continue Saturday, with highs only in
the low to mid 40s at best, if there are breaks of sun. Overcast
skies would only yield highs in the upper 30s given 850mb temps
approaching -10C, with some areas across the higher terrain possibly
not getting out of the upper 30s either way.

The airmass will begin to modify a little by Monday, but
temperatures will still run well below normal. Another low is
forecast to move through the Ohio Valley and eastern Great Lakes,
bringing a chance of some additional rain and wet snow showers.

Lake effect snow in May? That’s a first for me.

[TugHillMatt]

I can't believe the snow is STILL missing us to the south and east...lol.

I know part of it is lower elevation suckage, but it's clear the track is off to the south and east.

[MJO812]

5 hours ago, Ericjcrash said:

Euro just got better for me. Looking like a fun Friday evening. What a bizzare season(s).

What a season to be in Cooperstown  or just west of there .

[DeltaT13]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

What a season to be in Cooperstown  or just west of there .

Why because they got two snow events in April/May?  I don’t think anyone in the entire northeast had any kind of noteworthy winter. 

[MJO812]

1 minute ago, DeltaT13 said:

Why because they got two snow events in April/May?  I don’t think anyone in the entire northeast had any kind of noteworthy winter. 

Maine

[DeltaT13]

Just now, MJO812 said:

Maine

I’ll give you that one, but Maine always does well. Just a really nice location that far north.
 Did Cooperstown get a big storm during the winter?  I kind of remember one good event for the capital district, but I might be wrong. 

[MJO812]

1 hour ago, DeltaT13 said:

I’ll give you that one, but Maine always does well. Just a really nice location that far north.
 Did Cooperstown get a big storm during the winter?  I kind of remember one good event for the capital district, but I might be wrong. 

It seems like elevation is good when it comes to snowstorms . I wish i lived up there or even near the lakes.

[wolfie09]

Euro

 

[cny rider]

10 hours ago, DeltaT13 said:

I’ll give you that one, but Maine always does well. Just a really nice location that far north.
 Did Cooperstown get a big storm during the winter?  I kind of remember one good event for the capital district, but I might be wrong. 

Our best snow pack was in November.

We went sledding at a friends house, and also did some XC skiing around that time.

The rest of the winter was hit and miss.  I judge mainly by snowpack because we are into nordic skiing.

January sucked.

February was barely passing.  Decent amount of skiing but felt like we were always short just a few inches to make it really good.

March sucked.

April was a horror show.  Cold, damp, multiple snowfalls but what are they good for at that point?

And May 10-20F below normal,  No thanks!

 

 

[winter_rules]

4 minutes ago, cny rider said:

Our best snow pack was in November.

We went sledding at a friends house, and also did some XC skiing around that time.

The rest of the winter was hit and miss.  I judge mainly by snowpack because we are into nordic skiing.

January sucked.

February was barely passing.  Decent amount of skiing but felt like we were always short just a few inches to make it really good.

March sucked.

April was a horror show.  Cold, damp, multiple snowfalls but what are they good for at that point?

And May 10-20F below normal,  No thanks!

 

 

I agree with this completely.  At no point did we have 6in or more on the ground after November, but it was white +/-90% of the time.  Always needed “just one more” clipper.  Instead we would get a cutter and start over. 

[MJO812]

11 minutes ago, cny rider said:

Our best snow pack was in November.

We went sledding at a friends house, and also did some XC skiing around that time.

The rest of the winter was hit and miss.  I judge mainly by snowpack because we are into nordic skiing.

January sucked.

February was barely passing.  Decent amount of skiing but felt like we were always short just a few inches to make it really good.

March sucked.

April was a horror show.  Cold, damp, multiple snowfalls but what are they good for at that point?

And May 10-20F below normal,  No thanks!

 

 

What did you end up with ?

[wolfie09]

Low of 28.9°..

 

 

[Ericjcrash]

2 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

Euro

 

Went the wrong way IMBY. Not unexpected in mid May lol.