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  1. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    We received an automated call on our house phone about a tornado warning at about 1:45am. Then our internet didn’t work so we couldn’t check the radar (no cell service and our internet works about 25% of the time so that wasn’t a shock). Tried TWC but of course they were focused on their stupid reality shows. Decided to take the kids to the basement for a while until the leading edge of the storms pushed through with nothing more than some wind, rain, and lightning. We did lose power at about 2am and still didn’t have it back when my wife left for work. Fun Monday morning....
  2. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    I have been thinking the same thing about winter dragging through March much of this decade. For snowmobilers, a later start and later end is actually good because most trails aren’t open until after hunting season (+/- Dec 20th depending on location/year to not irritate hunters who own much of the land we ride on). If winter starts early we end up with more problems of people riding where they shouldn’t be and potentially causing property owners to revoke permission to use their land. That isn’t a problem when there is good snowcover through March. Our pond has been frozen over since November 10th, so we are currently over 4.5 months straight. Not sure if we’ll make it to 5 months but I’m still seriously impressed!
  3. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Excellent reporting! I love hearing from people who are out enjoying the snow. Enjoy winter’s last hurrah!
  4. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Wife recently measured 6in at 1,700ft. Still brown and rain in Binghamton.
  5. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Nice +/-3in and counting of wet snow that is sticking to everything at 1,700ft in NW Delaware County. School used another snow day which now takes a day from Spring Break because they have used all the snow days and contingency days for the year. Brown and rain in Binghamton....just miserable down here.
  6. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    No blockbuster snows recently, but also no thaws for a few weeks. It’s amazing what that can do to build a snowpack. Mid-winter conditions on Tug Hill and into the Adirondacks for snowmobilers....which are significantly better than the conditions that actually occurred during “mid-winter.” -8°, -7°, -10°, -9° the last four mornings in the northern Catskills. Pond has been frozen consistently since Nov 10th. I’m curious to see how much longer it stays frozen....
  7. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Brantingham doesn’t get the big totals that everyone seems to covet, but usually builds a pretty solid snowpack throughout the winter. They don’t lose the snow as quickly/often as many areas outside of the Tug and Adirondacks. Farther East it will just keep getting better. Also, you don’t really have to worry about being “on the trail” in Brantingham to rent to sledders because sleds run all those roads to get to the trail. There is usually a nice layer of packed snow/ice on all those roads.
  8. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Yes, that’s a good spot. That’s roughly the NW corner for the “deep snow depth on the Tug.” Snow drops off dramatically North of NYS Rte 177 which is only +/-3 miles north of that cam.
  9. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Dave, You describe it well, except Lowville and Boonville often have similar “lower” snow depths. Basically follow NYS Rte 12 from Boonville to Lowville and then offset maybe +/-3 miles on each side (East and West) to define the Black River Valley that always has much less snow. It’s a combination of: A) Lower elevation and the temperature and precipitation effects that come with that, and; b) Picture a westerly wind coming off Lake Ontario with a nice lake effect plume (the one TugHillMatt has been waiting for). The air upslopes up Tug Hill, then downslopes down into the valley, then upslopes again into the Adirondacks. A north/south line from Brantingham to, say, Forestport is where you often start to see the snow depth becoming impressive again.
  10. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    As someone who plays in the snow as much as I can, I think the overall frustration this winter in NY and the Northeast is the repeated thaws that seem to be happening more than once per week for the past several weeks. Total snowfall isn’t far off “normal”, but that doesn’t mean much when snowpack is repeatedly reduced or even wiped out completely in between snowfalls. Snowpack, not total snowfall, is what matters to anyone who “uses” the snow for hobbies. To that point, this is what TugHillMatt should try to focus on - his consistent snowpack which might increase or decrease but never really disappears until April. This is nearly always the case in his location and points North and East from him. I was on the East side of Tug Hill and then over toward Forestport/White Lake/Old Forge yesterday and Tug Hill, as always this time of the year, has plenty of snow on the ground and 6ft snowbanks along the “snow tunnels”, i.e. roads. This is in +/-2,000ft ASL areas that haven’t had any major snowfalls (the late January heavy lake effect stayed North of the area I was in). The Black River Valley is a different story of course, then snowpack increases again heading East of the valley into the Adirondacks. Long story short, enjoy the snow when it’s here because, this year, it might not last more than a day!
  11. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    In NW Delaware County we had about 9 or 10in by 3AM, then switched to sleet and freezing rain and actually reached 33° at some point this morning! Down to 23° now and back to all snow. This storm will provide a solid base on top of frozen ground for outdoor activities. It was interesting because, for the past several days, the models showed us in a mix for several hours, just like what actually happened. However, most of the forecasts did not seem to acknowledge that possibility until late yesterday. It’s surprising because the warm air always seems to push a little farther north than the models show, and they were showing this for many days leading up to it. I have concluded that meteorologists must be eternal optimists just like snowmobilers and skiers!
  12. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Although this weather has been/will be boring, this is very good for us in the Susquehanna/Delaware River watersheds (and I think most of upstate NY). We needed a prolonged cold/dry spell to let water run off. 1.5 weeks ago I was afraid we were one good rain event away from major flooding. As much as I love snow, I’m considering us lucky to be getting this dry weather.
  13. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    A little late with this as we are currently thawing, but I measured just over 2in of ice on our pond yesterday and walked out on it on Nov 24th! This property has been in our family since 1960 and my father and uncle think this may be the earliest date to walk on the pond in that time. Regardless, it’s impressive for this time of year and a nice reminder that us snow lovers are getting spoiled by this pattern.
  14. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    Light snow in Binghamton at 2:51PM.
  15. winter_rules

    Upstate/Eastern New York

    No snow in Binghamton as of 2:10 PM. Light snow has begun in Elmira according to one of my crews. It seems like there is some dry air to overcome so don’t expect the snow to fly with the front edge of the radar. Incidentally, I live in Delaware County which is one of the counties in the “WWA hole” surrounded by WSW. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next 18 hours!
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