sauss06 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 you guys must learn to embrace rain WTH is a matter with Y'all? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, pawatch said: This will turn most everything to a pool of water and then a freeze for the weekend. Fun times ahead lol. I am growing concerned with flood threat despite no attention from nws...also sounds like County public safety is as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 The situation here so far today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Already up to 42 here. 50's here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, bubbler86 said: Already up to 42 here. 50's here we come. Harrisburg won't hit 50 today, tomorrow we will though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, MAG5035 said: The situation here so far today: Looks like a better ice rink than most NHL Winter Classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, sauss06 said: Harrisburg won't hit 50 today, tomorrow we will though. Yea, I was speaking for my temp but York is already up to 46 so it was not far fetched for anyone in the LSV. Should go down a bit when the rain arrives but rise over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, canderson said: Looks like a better ice rink than most NHL Winter Classics. i do love a good winter classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Can’t wait to talk about winter again. UGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, paweather said: Can’t wait to talk about winter again. UGH. Might have to wait until February unless cold and dry gets you talkin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Rain freezing to lines and trees but really ponding up everywhere else...coming down pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Tonight is looking like a real soaker...big moisture influx for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Wmsptwx said: Fun times ahead lol. I am growing concerned with flood threat despite no attention from nws...also sounds like County public safety is as well. I think any flooding issues would be of the smaller stream and especially poor drainage variety. Good bit of rain incoming but it probably isn't going warm up enough in the interior counties to wipe out what was already an icy snowpack. NWS Pit put watches up for their counties but they're west of the Alleghenies where warm air via SW flow will get to the surface more easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Mag, thanks for insight...yeah already seeing rises sharp at that on small streams...if we punch up to 45 tonight look out. Unfortunately in our area small streams cause the most trouble in terms of damage and road damage...especially Mill Creek out 973 about 8 feet wide but rises like crazy in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Temps continue to hover right around freezing and there's still some ice accrual ongoing on cold surfaces. Had to resalt the driveway cuz ice was starting to take it over again. There's still patchy ice and slushy areas on even some of the more travelled roads. We had started the day early this morning in the upper teens so it's going to take a bigger spike in temps to completely end the ice issues. Pretty big difference between Altoona city and KAOO (Blair County Airport). Most meso obs around town are 32-33ºF while KAOO 15 miles south all the way up to 42ºF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Snowpack took a serious hit today. Tomorriw might finish off anything on paved surfaces. Booooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Alright, I took a couple of hours today and was able to download all the daily snowfall data for Harrisburg from 10/1/1957 till 4/30/2018. Broke the data into 5 year groupings and some bins and come up with the data below. Tomorrow I'll see if I can get things into a shared googlesheet and share the link. It should be noted that up until 9/30/1991 the observations at Harrisburg was taken at the Capital City Airport. Enjoy! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Also I should say that those are daily totals, so if a storm occurred during more than 1 day then it will not have correct storm total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Temps still hovering around freezing. The 32ºF ob on mesowest in Altoona is only several blocks away from my house. KAOO and KJST down toward the bottom of the obs map are both at 46ºF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Temp spike here. I sat down at the desktop about 15 minutes ago and it was 50 degrees. Now it's up to 56 degrees. It's too bad we can't sneak out one full day of this mild air (even with the rain) before the temps crash post FROPA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Voyager said: Temp spike here. I sat down at the desktop about 15 minutes ago and it was 50 degrees. Now it's up to 56 degrees. It's too bad we can't sneak out one full day of this mild air (even with the rain) before the temps crash post FROPA... Let me know how much of your snow/ice pack you have left after the event, I'm going on a trip up there this weekend, Lake Harmony region. Thanks! The extremes and precip amounts in your sig, are they for ABE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Let me know how much of your snow/ice pack you have left after the event, I'm going on a trip up there this weekend, Lake Harmony region. Thanks! The extremes and precip amounts in your sig, are they for ABE? We are holding our piddly snowpack quite well. We got an inch and a half of rain Saturday night/Sunday morning on 2.5" of snow. Then it froze into a rock. I don't think we'll be warm enough, long enough to lose all of it. As for my sig, I have a backyard weather station, so those numbers are for Tamaqua proper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Voyager said: We are holding our piddly snowpack quite well. We got an inch and a half of rain Saturday night/Sunday morning on 2.5" of snow. Then it froze into a rock. I don't think we'll be warm enough, long enough to lose all of it. As for my sig, I have a backyard weather station, so those numbers are for Tamaqua proper. Thanks I was wondering what the all time highs and lows you've recorded there are. I think our highest was during the July 2010 heatwave and our lowest was probably in Jan 1985 or Jan 1994. I'm pretty sure this past year has the all time precip record- not sure if 1983 or 2011 topped that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 35 degrees at 0600 this morning. It is still raining but the snow pack and ice seems to be hanging around. Anybody know how much rain we have got? My guess is a shitton . will get out and get a picture when it gets light out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Jns2183 said: Alright, I took a couple of hours today and was able to download all the daily snowfall data for Harrisburg from 10/1/1957 till 4/30/2018. Broke the data into 5 year groupings and some bins and come up with the data below. Tomorrow I'll see if I can get things into a shared googlesheet and share the link. It should be noted that up until 9/30/1991 the observations at Harrisburg was taken at the Capital City Airport. Enjoy! Wow, this is great, thank you. So the data does show we have had less of the moderate snows falls in the last 2-3 decades but it goes beyond that with less snow fall events all together. Also MDT only had 1 snowfall over 15" during the 45 year period of 1948-1992 and then a Bigly 7 over the 25 year period 93-18. Something has changed whether global warming or another natural climate phenomena. I have another observation. Even if public internet had existed for all of that first 45 year period, boards like this would not be nearly as popular as they are now as many people here live for the MECS and HECs. Having 7 in the last 25 years has spurred on this hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Thanks I was wondering what the all time highs and lows you've recorded there are. I think our highest was during the July 2010 heatwave and our lowest was probably in Jan 1985 or Jan 1994. I'm pretty sure this past year has the all time precip record- not sure if 1983 or 2011 topped that. I've only been in Tamaqua since 2001, so I don't know about times prior. Since my arrival, -10 and 101 were my records. Rainfall, of course came this year. The snowpack is taking a hit now with the heavy rain and a temp that is sitting at 59 degrees (we briefly hit 60 a little while ago) so I don't know how much will be left when all is said and done. today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I still have 4.5" of snow pack left out 6" . Not bad considering all the rain we had. Just goes to show how much things was froze up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 52 here this AM. Got up to 49 yesterday then fell back to 42 before spiking 10 degrees the last few hours. Only snow left is in grocery store parking lot piles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Voyager said: I've only been in Tamaqua since 2001, so I don't know about times prior. Since my arrival, -10 and 101 were my records. Rainfall, of course came this year. The snowpack is taking a hit now with the heavy rain and a temp that is sitting at 59 degrees (we briefly hit 60 a little while ago) so I don't know how much will be left when all is said and done. today. wow 60! that was unexpected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Wow, this is great, thank you. So the data does show we have had less of the moderate snows falls in the last 2-3 decades but it goes beyond that with less snow fall events all together. Also MDT only had 1 snowfall over 15" during the 45 year period of 1948-1992 and then a Bigly 7 over the 25 year period 93-18. Something has changed whether global warming or another natural climate phenomena. I have another observation. Even if public internet had existed for all of that first 45 year period, boards like this would not be nearly as popular as they are now as many people here live for the MECS and HECs. Having 7 in the last 25 years has spurred on this hobby. The records start in 1941, I think I may go all the way back to start in the next few weeks. Also, as I mentioned before, up until 9/30/91 the observations were taken at Capital City Airport in New Cumberland. They are only about 5 miles apart, but has yearly precipitation totals consistently lower than KMDT at Harrisburg Airport. I think it was the last 18/20 or 19/20 years. Some years it was >10% lower, which I found amazing for such a short distance. I did notice most of the discrepancy occurred in the summer months I believe, but not all. For a couple years after KMDT moved no observations were taken at KCXY. I’m going to try to compare observations for snow events where we have overlapping data. . Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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