blackngoldrules Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Yeah, I picked up 3 inches overnight as well. We had a very persistent line train right over Allegheny County overnight which still appears to be doing so. Roads are in good shape this morning around here. Mostly wet. It would be nice if this line holds together long enough to let the moisture from the south catch up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A New map put up by NWS Pit on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I just measured about 3inches on a bench when I got into work. (Greensburg) Temp is about 31 and side roads are dicey. Back home I had about 1.5 - 2. when I left but roads were all just wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A New map put up by NWS Pit on Facebook. Would be nice to see that heavier snow slide SE about 50 miles. Does that include this mornings 2-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Would be nice to see that heavier snow slide SE about 50 miles. Does that include this mornings 2-3? I don't know. I assume it is the storm total. i still do not think some of the local mets don't have a handle on it. I just had Dennis Bowman on Channel 2 and he is saying 1-2 today as snow mixes with rain and then more snow overnight. Then a total of 3-6. I think if we stay all snow today we will get more than 1-2 unless the snow lightens up at times. MY NWS forcast is 2-4 this afternoon which I think is a better call for the day. I think my call of 5-9 yesterday will still hold, maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I heard Denny Bowman on the radio this am. His forecast was for 1-3 today, 2-4 tonight, 1-3 tomorrow for get this total of 3-6 inches... Huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't know. I assume it is the storm total.i still do not think some of the local mets don't have a handle on it.I just had Dennis Bowman on Channel 2 and he is saying 1-2 today as snow mixes with rain and then more snow overnight. Then a total of 3-6. I think if we stay all snow today we will get more than 1-2 unless the snow lightens up at times. MY NWS forcast is 2-4 this afternoon which I think is a better call for the day.I think my call of 5-9 yesterday will still hold, maybe more. I think 1-2 for my area today is a pretty good call. I know that warm tongue is going to get me eventually. It usually does. You'll stay snow longer than me of course, but might still have to deal with a mix eventually too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Whats the Rain/snow line looking like today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Winter Storm Warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 756 AM EST TUE NOV 26 2013 OHZ039>041-048>050-057-058-PAZ013>016-020>022-WVZ001-002-262100- /O.CON.KPBZ.WS.W.0009.131126T1500Z-131127T1800Z/ TUSCARAWAS-CARROLL-COLUMBIANA-COSHOCTON-HARRISON-JEFFERSON OH- MUSKINGUM-GUERNSEY-LAWRENCE-BUTLER-CLARION-JEFFERSON PA-BEAVER- ALLEGHENY-ARMSTRONG-HANCOCK-BROOKE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEW PHILADELPHIA...CARROLLTON...SALEM... COSHOCTON...CADIZ...STEUBENVILLE...ZANESVILLE...CAMBRIDGE... NEW CASTLE...BUTLER...CLARION...BROOKVILLE...BEAVER... PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...KITTANNING...WEIRTON...BETHANY 756 AM EST TUE NOV 26 2013 ...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM EST WEDNESDAY... * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...5 TO 9 INCHES...EXCEPT 4 TO 6 INCHES IN SOUTHEASTERN JEFFERSON COUNTY OHIO...SOUTHERN BROOKE...SOUTHEASTERN ALLEGHENEY...AND SOUTHEASTERN ARMSTRONG COUNTIES. * SNOW BEGINNING...LIGHT SNOW HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED. STEADIER SNOW WILL MOVE FROM SOUTH TO NORTH LATE THIS MORNING. * PERIOD OF POSSIBLE TRANSITION...SNOW MAY MIX OR CHANGE TO SLEET OR RAIN FOR A PERIOD LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING... PARTICULARLY IN SOUTHEASTERN JEFFERSON...BROOKE... ALLEGHENY... AND ARMSTRONG COUNTIES. ALL PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE BACK TO SNOW OVERNIGHT. * PERIOD OF MOST INTENSE SNOW...TONIGHT. * SNOW ENDING...WIDESPREAD SNOW WILL END WEDNESDAY. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO REDUCED VISIBILITY ALONG WITH SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATION. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS THAT SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE WILL MAKE TRAVEL HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE. REPORT SNOW OR ICE ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING...412-262-1988... POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGH FACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't know. I assume it is the storm total. i still do not think some of the local mets don't have a handle on it. I just had Dennis Bowman on Channel 2 and he is saying 1-2 today as snow mixes with rain and then more snow overnight. Then a total of 3-6. I think if we stay all snow today we will get more than 1-2 unless the snow lightens up at times. MY NWS forcast is 2-4 this afternoon which I think is a better call for the day. I think my call of 5-9 yesterday will still hold, maybe more. The big variable is if and where and for how long a change over occurs. This is the NWS Advisory for my backyard, although I am literlly 1 mile from the warning criteria: URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA756 AM EST TUE NOV 26 2013PAZ031-073-075-262100-/O.CON.KPBZ.WW.Y.0028.000000T0000Z-131127T1800Z/GREENE-WESTMORELAND-FAYETTE-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WAYNESBURG...GREENSBURG...LATROBE...UNIONTOWN756 AM EST TUE NOV 26 2013...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM ESTWEDNESDAY...* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 5 INCHES THIS MORNING...THEN A PERIOD OF RAIN THAT WILL LIKELY MELT MOST OF THIS. AN ADDITIONAL 2 TO 4 INCHES LIKELY OVERNIGHT TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY.* SNOW BEGINNING...SNOW HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED. STEADIER SNOW WILL MOVE FROM SOUTH TO NORTH THIS MORNING.* PERIOD OF TRANSITION...SNOW WILL CHANGE TO RAIN BY THIS AFTERNOON. ALL PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE BACK TO SNOW OVERNIGHT. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED UNTIL AFTER THE CHANGEOVER BACK TO SNOW.* PERIOD OF MOST INTENSE SNOW...OVERNIGHT.* SNOW ENDING...WIDESPREAD SNOW WILL END WEDNESDAY.* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO ACCUMULATION OF A WINTRY MIX OF SNOW...SLEET...AND ICE.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT SNOW...SLEET...OR FREEZINGRAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVINGAND REPORT SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHERSERVICE BY CALLING 412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGHFACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH. This is why I have been thinking 2-4 all along, as in thats what will be on the ground when its all said and done. I know thats not technically the correct method for measuring snowfall, but as overall impacts go its what matters the most. For those NW of the city, I think they stay cold enough so most of what falls will be snow even if the surface warms above 32 so their overall total when its all said and done could easiy be 4-8. If it stays cold enough, but I don't see a reason why it would (just hoping) then folks will be pleasnatly surprised if they are rooting for snow. It seems that 9 out of 10 times if you overestimate the advancement of the warm tongue you will be right. Maybe this is is the 1 out of 10 that it works the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We have been lucky that this first batch of snow has over-performed. I have 3 inches on the ground and still snowing. Looking at the HRR, the heaviest precip will arrive around noon time and get heavier late this evening and tonight. The question will be does it stay all snow form much of the area or mix and change to rain. Just a note: I know most of us do not watch The Weather Channel anymore but I will still put it on to see what they are doing from time to time. They have a live reporter in Atlanta talking about the heavy rain. The local forecast for my area is saying a slushy inch today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 In the valley in emsworth...an inch lol. Hate living down here. Going to drive up int Ben Avon heights before work to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Would this slight eastward trend people are talking about on accu forums help Pgh totals out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamcity Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Accu bumped us into 6-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Would this slight eastward trend people are talking about on accu forums help Pgh totals out? I would think it can't hurt given how close some folks are to the R/S line it should make a difference if it continues to be further east. Still very light snow and flurries in Greensburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Light to Moderate Snow here in Monroeville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvfd404 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Light to moderate here in hancock county. Not sticking to roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The forecasted high is 33 and has dropped from 35 lets see this continue. Our forecast changed to 4-8 Im thinking on the high side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Still like where were at regarding the storm, even those east of us will do ok overnight once the heavier rates develop. I"ll take the higher qpf over the perfect location with this storm, especially once the sun goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecon Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm 12 miles north of Pittsburgh. It is 32.5 on 3 different thermometers. Light snow falling now. As of 9:30 AM I had 2 inches of snow. The outside temp creeped up from 32 to 32.5 over the last couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I am up to 4.25 inches, still snowing lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm bumping up my total....6-10 pittsburgh west and north, and I expect someone in beaver, butler, etc to get a foot. East and south still 4-8. I drove up to a higher elevation, and already 2-3 inches once you get away from the river and things really haven't even got going yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think when the dust settles tomorrow evening, everyone is gonna do well. Despite what actually happens, this is all pretty awesome for November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg8tr0514 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 NWS fail on this storm, there will be no significant rain, if any Washington, Pa and parts north. Look at the radar. Pulling the trigger on downgrading the watch, mistake. 3+ inches and this before the heavy stuff. I'd say 6-8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Snow starting to pick up in intesity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 NWS fail on this storm, there will be no significant rain, if any Washington, Pa and parts north. Look at the radar. Pulling the trigger on downgrading the watch, mistake. 3+ inches and this before the heavy stuff. I'd say 6-8".Yeah, I think they tried to be a bit too fine with their forecast for each county.A simpler, more regional forecast may have been better. I think they'll bump up snow amounts south and east, as the afternoon progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Wtae is thinking rain for most of us this evening. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 What makes you think against their thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Looks like a western PA Special is unfolding for you guys. Really wish I was out there right now...we're sitting at 32 and rain east of the mountains. Those hills are your saving grace with this weak ESE flow. Would not be at all surprised if this ended up being snowier than originally progged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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