pawatch Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I've noticed that both the central PA thread and the western PA/Pit thread are at or over 1000 posts, what are thoughts on maybe making a new thread merging both regions for the storm? I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I agree, more or less, with the call on keeping the UP campus open tomorrow. But, beyond that, into Monday night and Tuesday (and perhaps beyond), when conditions will become much more severe, I am very skeptical about Bittner's fallacious line of reasoning. Power failures are likely -- even if central PA isn't in the "brunt of the storm." There will still be a fairly broad spectrum of conditions less than those associated with the brunt that will qualify as rather severe and disruptive to society. If the power is out or if professors, workers, and even some students cannot make it to campus due to blocked or flooded roads, I am rather puzzled as to why the campus should be open and how it can be open. If conditions end up being as bad as I think they will be, failure to close the campus would be irresponsible. This downplaying of the expected conditions reminds me of a similar official communique that Northern Illinois University, my undergraduate institution, released a day before the February 2011 Groundhog Day blizzard (in many ways, similar to this event). They were reluctant to close the campus and used the reasoning that northern Illinois experiences snowstorms of that intensity every year, which was malarkey, considering that ended up producing DeKalb's greatest single snowfall on record. In the end, the campus ended up closing for two days and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 "University Park, for now, is remaining open since it is not in the direct path of the storm" You've got to be kidding me. Terrible reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I agree, more or less, with the call on keeping the UP campus open tomorrow. But, beyond that, into Monday night and Tuesday (and perhaps beyond), when conditions will become much more severe, I am very skeptical about Bittner's fallacious line of reasoning. Power failures are likely -- even if central PA isn't in the "brunt of the storm." There will still be a fairly broad spectrum of conditions less than those associated with the brunt that will qualify as rather severe and disruptive to society. If the power is out or if professors, workers, and even some students cannot make it to campus due to blocked or flooded roads, I am rather puzzled as to why the campus should be open and how it can be open. If conditions end up being as bad as I think they will be, failure to close the campus would be irresponsible. This downplaying of the expected conditions reminds me of a similar official communique that Northern Illinois University, my undergraduate institution, released a day before the February 2011 Groundhog Day blizzard (in many ways, similar to this event). They were reluctant to close the campus and used the reasoning that northern Illinois experiences snowstorms of that intensity every year, which was malarkey, considering that ended up producing DeKalb's greatest single snowfall on record. In the end, the campus ended up closing for two days and a half. Yea I agree they should generally be OK for Monday. Most of Tuesday though, especially in the morning could be pretty rough. I'm not sure I remember the last time they totally closed for anything and it def wasn't in my time there. Branch campuses on the other hand will close for things like a bigger snowstorm. Not sure what they'll do with this.. I trust that they're taking it seriously though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 PPL robocalled my wife's grandmother in Carlisle saying power would be out for 1-2 weeks. The 84-year-old widow is obviously freaked. WHY WOUD THEY DO THIS?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Liking that the NAM (12z and 18z), Euro, and the majority of the 15z SREFs all give me some snow out of this, too. I am about to go off on some people on FB including a few higher ups in PSU communications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 PPL robocalled my wife's grandmother in Carlisle saying power would be out for 1-2 weeks. The 84-year-old widow is obviously freaked. WHY WOUD THEY DO THIS?!?! We just got the same call, they said it MAY be out for 1-2 weeks, but that there are 1500 crews from out of state on standby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I am about to go off on some people on FB including a few higher ups in PSU communications. And deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I agree, more or less, with the call on keeping the UP campus open tomorrow. But, beyond that, into Monday night and Tuesday (and perhaps beyond), when conditions will become much more severe, I am very skeptical about Bittner's fallacious line of reasoning. Power failures are likely -- even if central PA isn't in the "brunt of the storm." There will still be a fairly broad spectrum of conditions less than those associated with the brunt that will qualify as rather severe and disruptive to society. If the power is out or if professors, workers, and even some students cannot make it to campus due to blocked or flooded roads, I am rather puzzled as to why the campus should be open and how it can be open. If conditions end up being as bad as I think they will be, failure to close the campus would be irresponsible. This downplaying of the expected conditions reminds me of a similar official communique that Northern Illinois University, my undergraduate institution, released a day before the February 2011 Groundhog Day blizzard (in many ways, similar to this event). They were reluctant to close the campus and used the reasoning that northern Illinois experiences snowstorms of that intensity every year, which was malarkey, considering that ended up producing DeKalb's greatest single snowfall on record. In the end, the campus ended up closing for two days and a half. Yea I agree they should generally be OK for Monday. Most of Tuesday though, especially in the morning could be pretty rough. I'm not sure I remember the last time they totally closed for anything and it def wasn't in my time there. Branch campuses on the other hand will close for things like a bigger snowstorm. Not sure what they'll do with this.. I trust that they're taking it seriously though. I work at PSU and I am seeing a fair amount of people in my social media feed who seem to be expecting an ordinary windy showery day, especially some administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 PPL robocalled my wife's grandmother in Carlisle saying power would be out for 1-2 weeks. The 84-year-old widow is obviously freaked. WHY WOUD THEY DO THIS?!?! yep, my sister said they called her too. y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Just got a call from PPL....they said unprecedented damage across commonwealth to lines...power could be out for a week or longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 New C PA thread http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/37515-central-pa-digging-deep-into-autumn/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 High Wind Warning Updated to 70MPH now! URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA 616 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2012 ...STRONG WINDS AND POWER OUTAGES LIKELY MONDAY INTO TUESDAY... .THE REMNANTS OF HURRICANE SANDY WILL TRACK WESTWARD INTO PENNSYLVANIA MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY...BRINGING STRONG...GUSTY WINDS TO THE AREA. PAZ036-056>059-063>066-291000- /O.CON.KCTP.HW.W.0002.121029T1200Z-121030T1600Z/ FRANKLIN-PERRY-DAUPHIN-SCHUYLKILL-LEBANON-CUMBERLAND-ADAMS-YORK- LANCASTER- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CHAMBERSBURG...NEWPORT...HARRISBURG... HERSHEY...POTTSVILLE...LEBANON...CARLISLE...GETTYSBURG...YORK... LANCASTER 616 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2012 ...HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM MONDAY TO NOON EDT TUESDAY... * WINDS...NORTH 35 TO 45 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 70 MPH. * TIMING...BEGINNING SHORTLY AFTER DAYBREAK MONDAY...AND LASTING THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING. * IMPACTS...NUMEROUS DOWNED TREES...AND WIDESPREAD...POTENTIALLY LONG-DURATION POWER OUTAGES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A HIGH WIND WARNING MEANS A HAZARDOUS HIGH WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS OF AT LEAST 40 MPH OR GUSTS OF 58 MPH OR MORE CAN LEAD TO PROPERTY DAMAGE. IF YOU EXPERIENCE A POWER OUTAGE...DO NOT USE GENERATORS... GRILLS OR OTHER GASOLINE...PROPANE OR CHARCOAL BURNING DEVICES INSIDE YOUR HOME OR GARAGE. THEY PRODUCE CARBON MONOXIDE...AN ODORLESS...COLORLESS GAS THAT KILLS MORE THAN 500 AMERICANS EACH YEAR. GENERATORS SHOULD BE PLACED OUTSIDE...AWAY FROM DOORS WINDOWS AND VENTS THAT COULD ALLOW CARBON MONOXIDE TO SEEP INSIDE. DO NOT LET YOUR CAR IDLE INSIDE THE GARAGE...EVEN IF THE GARAGE DOOR IS OPEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I work at PSU and I am seeing a fair amount of people in my social media feed who seem to be expecting an ordinary windy showery day, especially some administration. The part of the whole thing that really irks me is the whole "we're not in the direct path of the storm". Well yea... technically, we ARE in the direct path of the storm. The low pressure center is literally going to either go over our head or just east. Obviously, we aren't going to see the type of stuff the NJ coast and NYC/LI are about to experience and the central counties will probably see somewhat mitigated wind gusts (and i use that term lightly). But still, this isn't going to be run of the mill. I'm curious to see what actually happens cuz this is such a rare track/setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 many local school districts closed tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Penn College is closed Mon. & Tue. They are affiliated with Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Someone want to lock this thread so there's no confusion on where to post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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