Ji Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 can you stop coming into our subforum and trolling? Thanks. No I can't. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Well being further west I kinda liked the op Euro at 168 hours, but we need that bomb to develop a little further south probably. I see the ensembles also have that low cutting off around our latitude. The euro ensembles kind of continue that concern I explained about a day ago. They really lower heights all over western NAMR and the EPO ridge backs off like a scared turtle. They pump up the se ridge a bit too. I think we'll have a couple of chances, but we may have the risk of milder solutions too, as illustrated by the euro op. I continue to be pretty meh about the pattern until proven otherwise. Edit, the 12z runs did it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why is noone excited about the snow event on the euro for us next week? Don';t get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Winter cancel, + temp departures, endless summer, wash, rinse, repeat blah blah blah, Most knew that this pattern for cold right now is marginal, We are going to see swings in the models, If we lose December, Then we should be concernd but it has not even arrived yet.. Obviously, your area is in a better spot, but I continue to be not impressed by the whole pattern. I think the other Mets are the same. At times the models look better to encourage us, but it just doesn't seem like an overall good pattern right now. Nobody is ruling out chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why is noone excited about the snow event on the euro for us next week? Don';t get it Because it is not coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Because it is not coming. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Obviously, your area is in a better spot, but I continue to be not impressed by the whole pattern. I think the other Mets are the same. At times the models look better to encourage us, but it just doesn't seem like an overall good pattern right now. Nobosy is ruling out chances. You're right on, Scooter. There will be a couple transient shots (next weekend, e.g.), but the overall pattern is not a good one for the EC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Winter cancel, + temp departures, endless summer, wash, rinse, repeat blah blah blah, Most knew that this pattern for cold right now is marginal, We are going to see swings in the models, If we lose December, Then we should be concernd but it has not even arrived yet.. Maybe leaving the board for a while is a good thing..man we have some depressing people here..the disregard Euro at 168 hrs but believe it 3 weeks from now..it's insane.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why? Even all hype Jb said euro was way overdone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why? The euro op is way over-amplifying it I think. The ensembles look more correct in blowing it up over Nova Scotia. The euro looks to wrapped up like it normally does with these things when you go out far in time. Verbatim it was not a snow event anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Even all hype Jb said euro was way overdone Your area is done. We're not talking about the mid atlantic. You have no winter. We still have a decent shot at a decent winter up here. And to simply say we're not going to get some snow next week and the Euro is wrong when it has support seems odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 can you stop coming into our subforum and trolling? Thanks. He can post in whatever forum he want to. Chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hopefully we can try and flip the script later in the month. Just pray the last 2 days of the EC ensembles are wrong at hinting at another torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Obviously, your area is in a better spot, but I continue to be not impressed by the whole pattern. I think the other Mets are the same. At times the models look better to encourage us, but it just doesn't seem like an overall good pattern right now. Nobody is ruling out chances. That is the one thing that still remains pretty steadfast is the chances at some storms, The biggest concerns i have is not for snow, But the marginal cold, We need something more sustained below normal and thats what i don't see happening which spells big trouble up here even moreso then no snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Your area is done. We're not talking about the mid atlantic. You have no winter. We still have a decent shot at a decent winter up here. And to simply say we're not going to get some snow next week and the Euro is wrong when it has support seems odd it has no support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 If you think it can't get worse...it can Wizards coach flip Saunders about his basketball team on dec 25 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 If the Euro is right at 168 hours you'll be colder than Boston. If you think it can't get worse...it can Wizards coach flip Saunders about his basketball team on dec 25 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I am generally optimistic. But I've lived long enough to know when to hold and know when to fold. If today's 12Z site confirms the 0Z trends, I will be on the verge of folding for the period 12/1-15. It can still snow...Will mentions the nice event of December 2001....but the month and winter that year were awful. Let's see if last nights trends are real. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Alright well look, the world is not ending. We'll have a chance or two up this way, but it doesn't mean we have to like the pattern or that it is a cold and snowy one. If it turns out that way in the first half of the month..I think all of us will welcome being wrong. I'm just not a big fan and haven't been for a while....hence the posts about me being "cranky"...lol. It sounds like Will, Phil, Ryan, Adam and others feel the same and have been that way for a while. Nothing has changed, but as we go forward in time...you want to see some changes. The problem is that I don't see these changes right now. We'll just roll with the punches and see what happens. Even if I get 1-3" and washed away by rain...I'll still enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 DT just mentioned something on FB which is totally true..the Euro weeklies two weeks ago had no cold air at all moving into the USA next week..none..it was supposed to be a all out blowtorch..they were wrong!..Can we stop looking at these long range models like they were written in stone?Anything past 7 days is a reach..but we are already giving up on December when it's not even December yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Just to clarify, I'm more thinking ahead towards mid month and beyond. There has been a trend to really lower heights across western NAMR which in turn is pumping up heights in the east. That's the trend I do not like. I also feel the storm near the 8th to 10th could again be another mild storm, but it is way too early to get specific. Maybe that one is more of a SWFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 DT just mentioned something on FB which is totally true..the Euro weeklies two weeks ago had no cold air at all moving into the USA next week..none..it was supposed to be a all out blowtorch..they were wrong!..Can we stop looking at these long range models like they were written in stone?Anything past 7 days is a reach..but we are already giving up on December when it's not even December yet.. The weeklies are a weekly average. A lot of that cold won't be until after the 7th. The weeklies from the 14th will end up being pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 DT MAJOR ALERT *** ALERT *** POTENTIAL -- POTENTIAL for Severe cold outbreak DEC 6-10 for Entire Eastern half of the US ..2 waves of serious cold FIRST wave of cold DEC 5-6-7... 2nd wave of serious Cold DEC 9-10-11.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Kevin, instead of mocking the mid atlantic, you should be cheering us on. A warm weather for NY-Phl-Was does not bode well for Boston. Remember 2001-2002. In cold winters, you guys can crush us with regards to snowfall. In warm east coast winters--nobody wins. The colder we are...the better it is for you. Its not like we have been basking in 70 degree heat while you have been shoveling snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The weeklies are a weekly average. A lot of that cold won't be until after the 7th. The weeklies from the 14th will end up being pretty close. DT is saying after the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 DT is saying after the 7th. Pretty hard to say the weeklies are a big bust this far out. I don't see this serious prolonged cold he is talking about. Week 4 might be too warm, but I also think we stressed hard that week 4 forecasts should not be taken verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Wxrisk.com there is a possible New England clipper low that could bring New England -- and NEW ENGLAND ONLY snow DEC 6-7 and 9-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 DT just mentioned something on FB which is totally true..the Euro weeklies two weeks ago had no cold air at all moving into the USA next week..none..it was supposed to be a all out blowtorch..they were wrong!..Can we stop looking at these long range models like they were written in stone?Anything past 7 days is a reach..but we are already giving up on December when it's not even December yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 There's some posters"(including me) even mets that need to take a break from the board for a week or so..and come back with clear heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Wxrisk.com there is a possible New England clipper low that could bring New England -- and NEW ENGLAND ONLY snow DEC 6-7 and 9-10 The 9-to 10 has the risk of going mild, but that's the one where it could be a SWFE. Maybe another chance of one a few days later, but again...it's not a guarantee of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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