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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Just looking at ensembles, the 0z EPS has this for the E TN and W NC mountains and also portion of SW VA and TRI. Their ensembles probably support it better than the GEPS. LONG way to go, but those were good trends for mountain communities.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 6z GFS has the same storm as the CMC, but is eastward. That does not surprise me as it is the more progressive model. I would guess the Euro might be having some issues w/ holding energy back...but who knows, that might have been exactly why its run was so big yesterday or so meh overnight. I need to look at the ensembles more.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
I can remember a couple. That huge NC/SC storm that never materialized was one. It was producing 4-5' right up to the event. They got nada! Snowmegadon had some big totals. @tnweathernutsent me a photo while I was driving in the mountains. I had to pull over in order to get enough service to get the photo...glad I was pulled over!- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Thing is, this has been there on several model runs for a while(maybe not that much). If anyone gets their hopes of for 52!!!! Well, they haven't been doing this long enough. LOL. DGEX worthy right there. Looks rates driven vs cold driven in terms of accumulations.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
You know the 6z GFS has that CMC solution now, just warmer. Euro was...meh! LOL.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
NE TN, SW VA, and W NC folks might want to take a look at the 0z CMC. overnight.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah, amen to that.....and with the strat getting jostled....things can change. The good thing is that seasonal patterns and the MJO do provide good underpinnings.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Sorry for the flurry of LR posts. Last post of the evening and a cherry picked one at that. GEFS Ext Control 35day snow maps(multiple storms with that...it isn't just one)...- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Sorry to bury your comment w/ 1,000 posts of mine. Just bumping it so folks can see it.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
The CMC Weeklies ran tonight as well. They are substantially colder. Here is the last week of the month....The CMC Weeklies begin get cold right around the 20th.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Right now, I am just waiting for the 35d snow map for the GEFS EXT control......it should be fun.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
I may have! Ha! It is getting late, so I probably should save the rest of my comments/rudimentary analysis for tomorrow. About this time of night, it all runs together for me! These runs tonight look decent in terms of precip timing and colder temps. If I remember back in December, it was pretty obvious from the word "go" that cold snap was going to be problematic in re: to precip as we were just exiting drought conditions west of the Apps. Now, that cold control run above is definitely drier than the ensemble mean. That much cold would squash even the hardiest SER.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
GEFS Ext has above normal precip over the TN Valley during the colder weeks, and it looks like a textbook setup w/ the most precip over middle TN...but pretty much the entire forum area is AN for precip though. Euro Weeklies look to have normal precip during its coldest "mean" timeframes..... FWIW, the Weeklies control is also very similar but slightly less extreme east of the MS. Its mean ensemble is about week later w/ a much more watered down look understandably since it is a blend.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Let me dig back through the Euro Weeklies and GEFS Ext to see what the precip anomalies are....- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Cosgrove I thought the same. It would fit the repeating pattern that you, Boone, and Holston have been kicking around. The GEFS EXT ensemble is much less cold...but still cold for an ensemble at this range. I know you know this...but I like looking at the control just to see what a non-washed-out member would look like. I was like, "Wow." The run is still ongoing. It is colder than the map above. Right now, I think trying to get the timing of any outbreak is going to be tough. The window(range of dates) for the outbreak is roughly Jan25-Feb10. It could still go poof or it could get crazier. I have always felt like that range of dates has held some of our best winter weather during my lifetime. We will find out soon if the cold snap in December was winter's opening act or just its only act!- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Still conflicting signals out there about where this heads, but modeling seems (today) to be adding the potential for a pretty serious cold outbreak in weeks 3-4, especially weak 4. That timeframe is fraught w/ forecasting danger! So take all of this with huge grains of salt(boulders if necessary). There is a lot on the table right now in terms of medium range tracking and LR modeling. Models are juggling quite a bit.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
GEFS Ext (control)...check this out. Way out there so huge grains of salt, especially since it is a control run. We have been talking about the MJO disconnect on modeling. Something is gonna have to give. Well, I hope this is the "give." That has both an Alaskan and NAO block. I am NOT saying this is going to happen, but that would make the cold in December feel like a walk at the beach.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
GEF Ext control got into it as well......I think it is a hair to quick. This is similar to some of the looks showing up in the weeks 3-4. There are still some work looks as well. But the "holiday shine" look is more fun to look at!!! LOL- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Considering the bleak look from several days ago...we have traded in our Yugo for an F150. Basically we are leaving a pattern that just kind of took us around town, and at times didn't run at all...for a pattern which is steady and something you can work with. Key takeaways from Euro Weeklies: 1. Developing NAO late in Feb as the run ends. Why lead off w/ something way out there? It fits NAO climatology where NAOs return. It implies spring will be delayed. 2. The HB block is now on the clock. Within a couple of weeks, we are transitioning quickly to something else. What is that something else? See below.... 3. Pattern after that will feature a very November-ish pattern where cold settles into the Mountain West and spread eastward in waves. It is not without some warmth, but hey...we live in the South. We are gonna have some warm days during winter. 4. The SER is going to be present, but gets beat down at times. With as much cold on the map in early Feb...we might need a bump from that feature. 5. Beginning the 20th through almost the end of February - base seasonably cold pattern w/ variability. 6. Base warm pattern until the 20th w/ storms cutting under the block. 7. Source region for cold is less maritime and more Canadian or Arctic in nature as the run progresses. 8. This run fits nicely w/ the CFSv2 run from today and yesterday. 9. Nice look late in the third week in January into the fourth week w/ EPO ridge and increasing cold. First and second weeks of February are the core of the cold shot....but it never really leaves, just moderates to normal. Is it right? We will find out....- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
And in the LR...The Euro Weeklies looks quite chilly with each passing week. I will have an update on that later. One thing on ensembles this evening, the trough out west vanishes about d14(poof!). The Euro control has a fairly stout NAO at the end. What I am beginning to think will happen is a classic phase 8 MJO look. Remember the MJO is moving very slowly and add in the lag....cold look in the LR (weeks 3-4 and maybe 5-6). The CFSv2 just has wave after wave of cold air beginning in a couple of weeks. Good trends this afternoon after a meh overnight suite.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Greenville/Spartanburg radar is going to be down a month if social media is accurate. That means western NC folks will be using MRX. With the shadow of the mountains, the high elevation folks may just have to eyeball it.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Both the 18z CFSv2 and GFS EXT depict a very cold continent by the end of the month which originates in a step-down pattern beginning about mid-month. And this a 30 day snapshot....keep in mind that the CFSv2 has a cold bias. Just interpreting its 500mb anomalies - intermittent SER and cold shots direct from the Arctic and/or Montana. I will try to update the GEFS EXT later. It is still running. Are they right? We will find out soon.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Modeling is definitely sensing the MJO d10+, at least on the 12z GEPS. Phase 1 is textbook BN heights stretching from Montana to the Southeast.- 923 replies
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