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Compared to one with a stable core, tropical cyclones undergoing EWRCs are more vulnerable to disruption by unfavorable environmental conditions; even transient ones, such as dry air entrainment from even modest amounts of shear. This is what usually causes substantial weakening post-EWRC, not the EWRC itself. If the conditions remain favorable and the cyclone has enough time before land; it can/likely will resume intensification as the new eyewall takes over and contracts.

12Z hurricane model suite is bombs away yet again. HWRF initializes with the current NHC pressure and has a borderline major hurricane within 12-18 hours. Both HAFS peak well into sub-920/Cat 5 territory, with HAFS-B once again flirting with the 900mb mark.

I used to chat on AIM with Alex in the mid-2000s when we were college-aged Wisconsin weather nerds. He knows what he's talking about.

Gotta bring this one up again:

HAFS duo has put the HWRF to shame as the "nuclear hurricane" model(s) of choice.

Apparently all my "Hurricane Milton" Office Space memes were tempting fate.

This isn't coming west/north over the Keys and/or Cuba and recurving a la Charley, Irma, Ian. Much different setup.

You said the "hurricane models" which I took to mean the frame-by-frame sim IR, MSLP, etc products from the HWRF, HAFS A/B, etc. Usually takes a couple hours after the run initialization time for those to even start showing up.

Eh? Those aren't even out yet on Tidbits.

Stop copy/pasting what other people post on Storm2K.

Are you "DunedinDave" on Storm2K or are you just copy/pasting others' posts from there? Sent from my Pixel 8 using Tapatalk

A few pop-up severe storms in the region today, still hearing booms from the one that just rolled through southwest Madison. Almost looks like a legit supercell here in far SE MN approaching the MS River, although that outflow suggests production is unlikely.

Being in a severe thunderstorm warning polygon was not on my bingo card for today.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 2013 comparison is apt because the alarm bells for this year were hit quite a bit harder than in 2013. 2013 was expected to be active, yes, but not "1933 in the satellite era" levels of insanity from ALL the seasonal forecasting sources of note. So the activity for 2024 has been somewhat greater, yes, but the bar was also set higher. Again, I could be wrong, since in the July-September period of 2013 I was moving and starting a new job, therefore I probably paid the least amount of attention to tropical weather of my life since I was old enough to watch John Hope on The Weather Channel. It was probably about midway through September when I was like "Huh, shouldn't there be some hurricane threats right about now? Guess it's a quiet season."

My go-to CAMs (HRRR and 3K NAM, 12Z runs) both completely whiffed on the severe line which fired up in eastern WI late this morning and is now (in a considerably weakened state, even though there is a severe thunderstorm watch in effect out ahead of it) pushing into lower MI. Therefore, their depiction of activity (or lack thereof) for the rest of this afternoon/evening is rather suspect.

Next chance for the NW sub starts Monday evening, possibly continuing as far east as Michigan on Tuesday.

Atlantic tropics watchers in August 2024: Believe I posted this for August, 2022 as well.

Somehow I doubt this mesoscale discussion for the TX/OK panhandles is related to Hurricane Ernesto...

Decent-sized TDS near Waukon, IA persisted for several scans. At least one visible wedge occurred in south-central MN earlier. There was a "confirmed" tornado along the WI/IL state line around 0030 UTC but until I see otherwise I think it was a suspect public report. The storm collapsed shortly after. Maybe I'm just salty because I didn't pull the trigger on a chase in that area.

15Z run has it back...this tells me this setup is right on the line of a warm sector cap bust and a potent tornadic supercell or two. Also quite a few more supercells behind that lead batch...they would likely not be entirely surface-based but could be capable of producing wind/hail and heavy rain. Worth nothing the HRRR is not completely on an island, the 12Z HRW WRF-ARW also fires a few supercells along the WI/IL state line in the 23-00Z timeframe.

Would need the warm front to lift north and on top of that something to break the cap in the warm sector.

Annnnd the 10/11/12Z runs backed off, go figure.