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I dont believe enso influences our weather as much as people think (or used to think), there are other factors that usurp it, like blocking, we probably shouldn't be concentrating on enso so much.

did you see the super conjunction yet? It peaks tomorrow night, I wonder how the sky condition will be then? with all the technological innovations we've made, meteorology always lags behind....I still can't believe we haven't learned how to suck the clouds right out of the sky so we can see amazing celestial phenomena like this!

Thanks for your input! I consider you an expert! I think it was the variety of the music back then that made it the "golden age". People were more willing to take chances and let music tell a story, like an old epic poem. Attention spans today are lacking, everything gets melted down into a "sound bite" and rank commercialism is to blame.

Kansas is one of the greatest of the supergroups. I saw a lot of angry people on Twitter when Supernatural ended, I guess they wanted it to go on for a few more years.

if we can do away with RIAA and MPAA then I'm a happy man. They take most of the profits. Sony getting hacked a few years ago was the best thing that could've happened, people learned how awful they are (I always knew.)

this is just more proof of consumerism lol..... best selling doesn't mean better. Paul Simon wrote some amazing songs, so I'd argue that he's an artist from the classic rock era and so doesn't fit into this discussion. Actually when I mean "bad music" I'm referring to the likes of country music, Katy Perry, etc.

there were medical studies done showing how classical music improves cognition and learning.

None of us are boomers and I like that younger people are rebelling against consumerism.

and we didn't even mention Bob Dylan, perhaps the most prolific songwriter in modern history....didn't he sell the rights to his music recently for a huge sum of money?

I wasn't even around in the 60s but I defer to the experts on this: https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/music/rap-rock-and-all-that-jazz-which-decade-had-the-best-music-1.1564376108517#:~:text=The 60s,was in its purest forms. *this is obviously somewhat subjective based on what kind of music one is exposed to, but there has to be some objective metric in terms of music's influence on society. The 60s Hardcore music lovers will argue that the 60s were the best decade in musical history. It was in the early 60s when rock music was in its purest forms. As the decade neared its end, the pure rock was muddled with psychedelic rock, blues-rock, and folk rock, which had grown in popularity as the decade progressed. John Lennon was once quoted saying “The thing the sixties did was to show us the possibilities and the responsibility that we all had. It wasn't the answer. It just gave us a glimpse of the possibility.” The music industry really started to properly form, at that time. There was less segregation determining who could sing what. The sixties was a time of excitement in the music scene. The lyrics started becoming more experimental and expressive. Songs were more thought provoking, and tackled social issues, rather than just asking how much a doggie in the window was. And artists like The Beatles helped many see through the tough times. another nod to the 60s https://www.nme.com/news/music/this-is-the-best-decade-for-pop-music-according-to-science-2467655 https://www.smoothradio.com/news/music/best-decade-pop-music/ These are all quoting this study https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0210066

It's not "my music" though, I wasn't even born yet when most of the groups I referenced were in their heyday. As a person who believes in the complexity of the English language and classical writing and poetry, I naturally gravitate towards those who are the most literate and write the best. Writing is something that can be judged objectively. That may not be the best by everyone's standards but I have a specific objective definition of what I like and it's the type of writing that matches classical writing and poetry.

He also completely ignored the fact that so many of our youth gravitate towards older music. The Beatles are still considered the greatest rock band of all time. Find me a young group today that is anywhere near how great they were or Led Zeppelin or Queen for that matter. This isn't just an "opinion" it's a measurable matter of fact. What separates great music from rank commercialism is that the former tells a story and if you take the music away, the words still matter, they read like poetry written by some of our greatest writers. To not notice the general degradation of society, and how that's reflected in music, is to bury one's head in the sand. Facts are facts.....the new generation is angry because they know that their prospects for a better life are not as good as the previous generation's were and they have every right to be angry. You get less quality for the same amount of money, or even worse, lower quality that also costs more. There are multiple reasons for this, but corporatism, commercialism, etc., are all part of it.

okay then let's find a logical reason for why music has gotten worse with time....commercialism. It isn't just music that's been degraded it's many other facets of life. Let's face it, we live in a time when instant gratification results in a poor diet, where half of Americans have become obese (this started around 2000) and thats when the diabetes epidemic started, chiefly because of the consumption of convenient processed food. This era of "convenience" has bled into other facets of life generally degrading quality of life while increasing costs. Music is just a reflection of that new reality. And a lot of youth are rebelling against this new commercial reality. You completely forgot about the comment where a poster mentioned that his own children and their friends prefer music from the 80s. That's right in line with what I've seen too. It has nothing to do with one's age but with a measurable lowering of the quality of life.

1966-67 sounds somewhat similar to 1995-96 but without the historic blizzard at the beginning of the month.

For some reason this made me think of "The Day The Music Died" How sadly appropriate! That's in keeping with the mood of Auld Lang Syne too, as is Don Macclean's other great work, "Vincent." On a more positive note and speaking of the 80s, Queen was one of my favorite groups from back then, some of their music was truly operatic. The Live Aid concert in 1985 was one of my best memories from grade school. Queen's performance was also duplicated very well in the movie Bohemian Rhapsody.

Thanks Walt! Can you post one for eastern PA too, specifically one for the area between Allentown and Mt Pocono?

this is much better than the low IQ BS that passes for "songs" these days.

Met my old lover in the grocery store The snow was falling Christmas Eve I stole behind her in the frozen foods And I touched her on the sleeve She didn't recognize the face at first But then her eyes flew open wide She went to hug me and she spilled her purse And we laughed until we cried We took her groceries to the checkout stand The food was totaled up and bagged We stood there lost in our embarrassment As the conversation dragged Went to have ourselves a drink or two But couldn't find an open bar We bought a six-pack at the liquor store And we drank it in her car We drank a toast to innocence We drank a toast to now And tried to reach beyond the emptiness But neither one knew how She said she'd married her an architect Who kept her warm and safe and dry She would have liked to say she loved the man But she didn't like to lie I said the years had been a friend to her And that her eyes were still as blue But in those eyes I wasn't sure if I Saw doubt or gratitude She said she saw me in the record stores And that I must be doing well I said the audience was heavenly But the traveling was hell We drank a toast to innocence We drank a toast to now And tried to reach beyond the emptiness But neither one knew how We drank a toast to innocence We drank a toast to time Reliving in our eloquence Another 'auld lang syne' The beer was empty and our tongues were tired And running out of things to say She gave a kiss to me as I got out And I watched her drive away Just for a moment I was back at school And felt that old familiar pain And as I turned to make my way back home The snow turned into rain

Yeah why dont people write songs like this anymore? https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03i2759LM-ln_Jxr3RiClecvXmtnA%3A1608431670371&source=hp&ei=NrjeX7q3E-iw5NoPgsyTyAI&q=dan+fogelberg+new+years+song+lyrics&oq=dan+fogelberg+new+yea&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgBMgUIABDJAzIGCAAQFhAeOgQIIxAnOgUILhCRAjoFCAAQkQI6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOggIABCxAxCDAToCCAA6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOgQILhBDOgQIABBDOggIABDJAxCRAjoHCC4QsQMQQzoICC4QsQMQgwE6AgguOgoILhDJAxBDEJMCOgUILhCxAzoKCC4QsQMQgwEQQzoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoOCC4QsQMQgwEQyQMQkwI6CAguEMkDEJMCUKIFWPYrYIA3aABwAHgAgAFXiAGnC5IBAjIxmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab thats how a real writer writes....

if 1959-60 ends up being a good analog, March could have a blockbuster. you know I loved 1966-67 (I would have if I was alive then lol) and came after an el nino in 1965 had the amazing 1966 summer and then the very long snow season of 1966-67 with the amazing February and March after the snowy Xmas eve in Dec. Weatherwise do you think Xmas Eve 1966 was probably the best one in NYC history?

winters where we get a sizable amount of snow in December are also usually long snowcover winters- 1947-48, 1995-96 and 2010-11 being cases in point. 1995-96 had a big thaw but then it got right back to snowing lol.

wait wasn't there a New Years Eve song just like that too?

a good analog? I thought Dec 1995 also fit.

lol there's actually a place in Japan called Fujiwara and they got 7 feet of snow! Several all-time snowfall records had been set as of Friday, with 7.1 feet (2.2 meters) falling on the city of Fujiwara in three days’ time. Fujiwara is in Gunma prefecture, a mountain region northwest of Tokyo. A number of ski resorts are located nearby. Nearly 70 inches (178 centimeters) of Fujiwara’s snow accumulated in just 48 hours, breaking the previous record of 57 inches (145 centimeters) set in 2010. A record 72-hour December snowfall also occurred in nearby Tsunan, where 5.7 feet (1.9 meters) came down. Elsewhere along the spine of the Japanese Alps and Echigo Mountains, a broad four to six feet (1.2 to 1.8 meters) of snow fell, establishing a number of records. At least 1,000 cars were stranded Thursday on the Kan-Etsu Expressway, which connects Tokyo with Niigata. Some vehicles got stuck as early as Wednesday night. The traffic jam peaked in severity Thursday night, according to CNN Japan, with the chain reaction of halted vehicles spanning nearly 10 miles.

well the measurement was a good representation, JFK measured 7.2 and Marine Park had 7.5 and I'm 4 miles east of JFK and had close to 8 here.