LibertyBell

January and February had better be really cold otherwise next spring and summer is going to be horrible for bugs and pollen.

Unfortunately our snowstorms seem to have a much sharper gradient than our rainstorms do....still with 18" instead of 24" some people would still find a reason to complain lol.

Could you imagine this happening with a snowstorm lol? It would be a repeat of the Jan 2015 storm where both the NAM and EURO were saying we were going to get 30-40 inches of snow and the 30" totals were out at Orient Pt lol. We got our 30 incher the following January though

They've also had over 100 inches of rain this year lol

I think in the city and western Nassau we have much more of an issue with urban heat island, it makes it harder to accumulate as much snow in March with the higher sun angle. The last few Marches have been better, however we still haven't had anything in western LI or NYC to match the Boxing Day Blizzard or the early December 2003 blizzard for that matter. In central and eastern LI the Equinox Snowstorm last year matched it though. Once you get to the area around Farmingdale out to around Wading River or so, you guys do much better with late season events. Even the south shore of Suffolk County out to about Westhampton or so does better than we do with late season events.

Think between this and the cutter next week, JFK can break its record and finally hit the 60" mark before the year ends, Chris?

Here too, cant see anything outside, but can sure hear the rain pounding the windows while the wind whistles in the background. The airports are closed.

It feels like a tropical storm out there with the rain coming "down" sideways and the wind howling like that.

Looks like the analogs of 2002 and even moreso 2014 seem to be the best matches so far.

It's basically cutting out 1/3 of winter. So we have January and February left and they'd better be great lol. We've had some snowy Marches lately, but I dont think NYC has seen a 12+ March snowstorm since the 60s. I know we haven't here in western Nassau County. December however has seen two 12+ snowstorms, including the 20" Boxing Day Blizzard. It's prime snowstorm month, much moreso than March is, so wiping out December hurts.

I saw the record from yesterday was 60 degrees from 2002.

southeast winds can actually be much more damaging than northeast ones. the wind is really whistling out there

if we had that kind of convective snow, you'd see bridge jumping going on from some here lol. It's a lot more tame in here during a rainstorm.

In physical size though this is similar. It would qualify as a "superstorm" (if there is a technical definition of that term lol).

Is it possible this could bring a storm surge on the Florida west coast? Reminiscent of the March 1993 superstorm! We have seen tornadoes on two diametrically opposite parts of the country in the last couple of days- near Seattle and near Orlando!

Christmas 1980 may have been the best one, it snowed and it was incredibly cold. I dont think we've approached that kind of combination since, snowing and temperatures near 0 or even below! 1981-82 also had incredible stretches of snow+cold (mostly in January but also around that historic blizzard in April.) Jan 1982 was when that plane went down in the frozen Potomac during a noreaster. Even when it wasn't snowing much in the 80s, the Januarys were usually very cold. And in Jan 1985, the second Reagan Inauguration was the coldest day I've ever experienced with highs in the single digits. A surprise heavy snowstorm in Jan 1987 (a rare treat during the 80s) was one of the few times we had an 8 inch event in that decade outside of the two blizzards (April 1982 and February 1983).

Besides the small increase in temp, the bigger deal might be the massive increase in big precip events. Back in the 80s, 2-3 inch rainfall events were very rare outside of tropical systems, now we seem to get them once a week lol. You also see that in the big increase in HECS we have been having, all our snowfall records are from the past 20 years or so.

the 2010s have sucked? The snowfall averages in the 2010s have been outlandishly high Will. During the 80s though all our winters were at or below average in snowfall totals.

Feb 1983 was amazing and dropped close to 2 feet of snow here. Jan 1996, PD2 and Jan 2016 were the only other storms that did that here since then- that last one being the biggest and delivering over 30 inches here.

How high are the winds going to be? I was thinking more like Wind Advisory rather than High Wind Warning

Based on upslope and the storm tracking to the west of us, the rainfall maxima should be in the mountains of NW NJ and the Poconos.

Yeah I dont buy the maxima over CT there, based on the storm tracking to our west, I believe the maximum rainfall will be in the mountains just to the west of us, in the Poconos and NW NJ. You dont usually see precip maxima that far east with the storm tracking to your west.

It was the only confirmed major hurricane to make landfall in NYC wasn't it?

This may be the main reason why our snow seasons for the most part seem to be contracting to January-February even in the best years (with some exceptions of course, like last winter.) Average snowfall in December and March has been going down consistently vs the long term averages. January and February snowfall have been higher (even in a warmer background state.) This makes sense because December and March are borderline months as it is, push the temps slightly higher and snowfall goes down a lot.

Technically he's right, as long as he doesn't specify which region they are for lol.