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it sounds like a fireball, I wonder how close to the ground it got? Did you hear any sound with it (a fireball with sound is called a bolide)?

The 1944 hurricane was extremely underrated, it was a Great Hurricane that came after a Historic Summer. Great Atlantic Hurricane (Sept. 1944) There's a good reason why New Jersey State Climatologist David Robinson calls the Great Atlantic Hurricane "the worst hurricane ever to hit New Jersey in the 20th century." The damage unleashed by this storm was devastating along the entire coastline, with hundreds of homes on Long Beach Island washed out to sea and huge piers in Atlantic City split up into pieces. A resident who witnessed the 1944 destruction in Atlantic City told The Star-Ledger decades later: "It picked up the boardwalk like toothpicks and threw it.” (Photos by New Jersey State Police | NJ State Library) Len Melisurgo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Great Atlantic Hurricane (Sept. 1944) This hurricane was so powerful that it swept large boats and barges onto land in Atlantic Highlands, grounded a large passenger boat in Keyport, crushed roads and sections of the boardwalk in Long Branch and destroyed the boardwalk and sea wall in Margate. (Photos by New Jersey State Police and U.S. Navy | NJ State Library) More rare photos of the Great Atlantic Hurricane of 1944 Len Melisurgo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Great Atlantic Hurricane (Sept. 1944) The 1944 storm was ferocious, blasting the Jersey Shore with winds as strong as 96 mph and waves reported to be as high as 25 to 30 feet. Hundreds of homes were destroyed on Long Beach Island and hundreds more on the Barnegat Peninsula. On LBI, the hurricane’s storm surge pushed vacation cottages off their foundations and deposited them blocks away. In Manasquan, the storm left 6-foot sand dunes along First Avenue, looking like snowdrifts. In Cape May, the grand piano in Convention Hall was reportedly washed out to sea. (YouTube video by wetwatervideo) Len Melisurgo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Great Atlantic Hurricane (Sept. 1944) This video recounts the widespread destruction in Atlantic City. One witness says parts of the city were under 5 feet of water and he watched the ocean surge rip apart large sections of the Atlantic City boardwalk. (YouTube video by pcctv1)

1903 also had a very strong hurricane that took a path close to the city, what category was this storm? Great Hurricane (Sept. 1903) The Great Hurricane of 1903 made a direct hit on New Jersey, causing heavy flooding and structural damage up and down the Shore and as far inland as Trenton (pictured here in a major flood that followed the storm). Among the damage reported by Shore News Today: “Hurricane-force winds downed telephone and telegraph wires across the coast, ripped the roofs off of 60 cottages and destroyed the railroad bridge to Brigantine. Most Jersey Shore fishing piers were severely damaged or destroyed.” (Photo credit: Trentoniana collection | Trenton Public Library) Len Melisurgo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Great Hurricane (Sept. 1903) The Great Hurricane of 1903 made a direct hit on New Jersey, causing substantial damage to houses and barns, many of which had their roofs blown off, according to a report by NorthShoreWX.com. The storm’s ferocious winds reportedly uprooted scores of shade trees and fruit trees across the Garden State. In Sea Bright, some houses were completely destroyed by this hurricane, the New York Daily News reported. Pictured is an old map showing the storm's path. (Photo credit: NOAA)

How bright was it? Like a regular star or brighter like a planet?

Wow the 1821 storm makes the much publicized 1938 storm sound like a small gale. Norfolk - Long Island Hurricane (Sept. 1821) This massive storm, known as the Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane of 1821, churned its way up the Atlantic coast from Virginia and slammed into Cape May in southern New Jersey as a fierce Category 3 hurricane before speeding up along the Jersey coast and pounding New York City and Long Island. Damage was reported to be heavy in Cape May, where a 5-foot storm surge flooded the small resort city and sustained winds were believed to be as high as 110 mph. This map, produced by the Swiss Re global reinsurance company, shows the storm's likely path. (Swiss Re) Len Melisurgo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Norfolk - Long Island Hurricane (Sept. 1821) This graphic shows the intense winds generated by the Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane of 1821, which flooded Cape May and pounded the Jersey Shore, New York City and Long Island. (Swiss Re)

are you serious-- at what time? it has to be really bright to see one on a highway in all this light pollution!!

it's like a one hour drive or an hour and a half by LIRR (I used to work near the Babylon LIRR station.)

Hey you were in my neck of the beach lol, how do you like the beaches here?

Using the 1991-2020 baseline the huge changed happened around 1940, but I like the other two baselines more, which shows that our summers changed a lot starting in 1930.

Don there are some extremely cold summers prior to 1930, something we have not seen since. There's a huge change pre 1930 to post 1930, what flipped in 1930 to do this?

it's perfect weather for that and also to do some power washing!!!!

Maybe 1966-67? That was the last time I can think of there was a historic winter in the Pac NW and on the east coast in the same season. It was the best winter of the 1960s (although 1960-61 also makes a very strong case.)

wow you're very lucky, our longest heatwaves were in the 1950s and the 1990s.

Don is that more rare or is the back to back 102 at JFK in late June more rare?

It's interesting, while that happens the number of 100+ highs around here in August and September has dropped markedly since the 1950s.

To be fair, thats a little too extreme lol. 2010 was my ideal winter/summer/winter I don't think it can get any better than that around here.

How about if we use the 1951-1980 baseline we all want to use Don?

I hope that smoke stuff doesn't make it down here, I'm getting used to these deep blue skies

Yes really great late summer / early fall weather

This was the first earthquake I've ever felt! 2011: Earthquake today at 1351 that lasted 30 seconds that was rated a 5.8 magnitude and the epicenter was near Mineral, Virginia. The quake was the biggest in Virginia in 114 years since May 5, 1897, when a 5.8 tremor began in Giles County and was felt in 12 states. The Charleston, SC earthquake of August 31, 1886 was a powerful intraplate earthquake the strongest earthquake recorded in South Carolina. The shaking occurred at 9:50 p.m. and lasted just under a minute and is estimated to have been between 6.6 and 7.3 on the Richter scale. The earthquake caused severe damage in Charleston, South Carolina, damaging 2,000 buildings and causing $6 million worth in damages (over $141 million in 2009 dollars), while in the whole city the buildings were only valued at approximately $24 million. Between 60 and 110 lives were lost. After the 1811 and 1812 quakes in New Madrid, Missouri, the Charleston SC earthquake is the most powerful and damaging quake to hit the southeastern United States. Three Main Shocks of the Missouri Earthquake, December 16, 1811 - Magnitude ~7.7, January 23, 1812 - Magnitude ~ 7.5, February 7, 1812 - Magnitude ~ 7.7. Also in 1755, a quake with around a 6.0 magnitude struck off the coast of Massachusetts. The one last year in April 2024 felt stronger here though and that was actually a double (I felt another earthquake later in the day.) Also in 1755, a quake with around a 6.0 magnitude struck off the coast of Massachusetts. Would this have caused a tsunami? I wonder if this was felt around here and how bad it was here? 1963: Project Stormfury was armed and ready as Hurricane Beulah moved across the Atlantic Ocean north of Puerto Rico. An armada of planes carried out the seeding and monitored the results of the experiment. On the 23rd, Beulah did not really meet the criteria for seeding. On the following day, the storm met the criteria of having a well-formed eyewall and the seeding appeared to be successful as the eyewall disintegrated. No other hurricanes would be seeded until 1969 because of a lack of good targets. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) Why haven't we seen more of this? Why wasn't Katrina seeded in 2005 for example? Everyone knew it was going to be an epic disaster. Might as well try to do something about it in advance.... 1806: A hurricane of great size and destructive power raged along the Atlantic coast from the 21st to the 24th. As the slow moving storm gained forward speed, shipping suffered severely. The coastal ship "Rose in Bloom" capsized during the morning off Barnegat Inlet, NJ, with the loss of 21 of the 49 persons on board. This disaster received wide national publicity. Further north, Cape Cod, MA received 18 inches of rain, which ruined crops. The storm also caused major shipping losses. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) I've not read about this anywhere, the 1821 hurricane is mentioned far more often. What was its strength and where did it make landfall, Tony? 1683: A hurricane which made landfall in Virginia and moved from Virginia to Massachusetts. Extensive damage was done in Rhode Island, and the torrential rains from the hurricane caused the Connecticut River to rise 26 feet above its usual level causing a tremendous flood in the Connecticut Valley.(Ref. Hurricane of 1683) Never heard of this one either, did it make a second landfall up here and what was its strength?

all that excess water vapor is nasty, we could really put it to use by converting it to drinking water, there are devices already available that can do this

1947-48 was our snowiest season on record for many decades.

Maybe he appreciates lower heating costs or it could also be that we're coming to the realization that we've already experienced the coldest and snowiest winters we are likely to ever experience in our entire lives and anything from this point on is gravy. For me it's both 1 and 2, but I will say I still get really upset when a big snowstorm busts, a la March 2001 or January 2008. It's much easier to handle a mild winter with no snowfall threats at all than a mediocre winter with predicted snowstorms that don't pan out.

what year was that one?

Today's the best weather we have had in a long time. No more of that smoke haze crap either. I hope September is like today was, with a rain event maybe once or twice a week at most.