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What's causing JFK to be warmer than NYC, is it because of Jamaica Bay (although the wind trajectory isn't coming off the bay?) This isn't a radiational cooling night, with the wind, and JFK is usually colder when there is good radiational cooling. Is this why LGA typically has the latest freeze? It seems like its lows are always higher than the rest of the region, no matter the time of the year and no matter the wind direction Weird thing about JFK is with offshore flow during the summer they are usually just as hot as EWR is and hotter than either NYC or LGA, I've always wondered of the buildings to the north and west of JFK actually create a downslope effect lol. I noticed that happens in the winter too, but it's less noticeable because NW winds are cold winds in the winter, but JFK still manages to be milder than the other official locations. It's usually a 2-3 degree difference.

Does November snowfall get included with this lol

yeah but I dont think most are buying that lol From the 80s I remember a lot of storms that were like this, they had the potential to deliver 6+ inches of snow and we only got 1-3 inches

31 here

let's see if LGA gets to freezing or not. That place has the fakest temps in the entire country, I can't believe anyone would use their data

it's supposed to turn warmer after December 2nd though?

wait it says snow during the day on Sunday-- snow at night sucks can't really see it unless you're looking into the lights

they'll basically suffocate under the weight of their own population and pollution like is happening in India right now

we had some weird stalling clippers in the early 90s lol, I remember the 36 hour snowstorm that dropped like 8 inches

weird I dont remember that, I thought our seasonal total was 10.6"? I know JFK got more than that because the November storm was heavier there and they were closer to some of the southern scrapers that hit us in December

I might have confused those lol....I think it was the January 1987 snowfall I was thinking about that I remember the measurement from but juxtaposed that with the December 1984 snowfall lol. Uncle, do you have JFK snowfall totals from both those storms (December 1984 and January 1987) and the dates they occurred on? There's also a LGA 7 incher in there somewhere which I remember because we had just moved to a new house and the door got stuck when I got home from school and I couldn't get inside....the snow started around 3 in the afternoon and got heavier by 6 and snowed until the next morning. I don't remember the totals from the city or JFK for that one but I remember LGA got 7"

wow late Leonids? also, you have a chicken coop lol?

lasted until April when we got a minor snowfall lol after it had been in the mid 80s in March!

Hey Uncle let me know if you can figure out which storm that was that I remembered from December in the mid 80s

except for the Millenium snowstorm in 2000 we have a bad record when it comes to pre New Years snow....I'm not sure if I've ever seen one in my entire lifetime. 12/31-1/1 just to be clear

Hey I have a question thats been nagging at me....there was a nice sized December snowfall back in the 80s I just don't remember what year. It was an 8.6" snowfall (for some reason that number sticks out to me) and (I think) happened Friday into Saturday in December somewhere between December 1984 and December 1986. Can anyone pull up data on this storm? I distinctly remember it was supposed to change to rain at night but never did, instead it tapered off to freezing drizzle and drizzle at the very end.

Do you remember the snowfall more or the experience at the dentist lol

trust me it's a helluva lot better than December 1989

thats what I'm thinking too, a typical early season clipper

it won't be a noreaster, probably more like a clipper, still it will be our first snow of the season

being mentioned by Lee Goldberg now on ABC he said models shifted north into our area

long range forecasting beyond a few weeks isn't a science, I can show you astrology "forecasts" that are more accurate, random chances are higher than its accuracy

hit 32 though like JFK did but here's a delicate question, can it be considered a freezing day if the low is above 32.0? Because 0 C (actual freezing) is 32.0 F, not 32.2 or 32.4 or anything in between?

coldest wind chill though, 23 F or -5 C

so 2016-17 just made it over the 3 inch mark