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No it's not, it even says in that article that it's less stressful. And asthma rates are higher in cities thanks to all the extra vehicles (especially trucks) and when you look at longevity on a state by state basis, Colorado comes out on top. This one is more recent (sorry Jer!). It does sound like more of a mixed message though with each location being better in some ways. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180531-where-are-the-worlds-healthiest-places-to-live https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0169204611003665 http://www.ecehh.org/research-projects/urban-green-space/ Generally speaking, evidence suggests that green spaces are good for those of us who live in urban areas. Those who reside near parks or trees tend to enjoy lower levels of ambient air pollution, reduced manmade noise pollution and more cooling effects (something that will become increasingly useful as the planet warms). Natural spaces are conducive to physical and social activities– both of which are associated with myriad benefits of their own. Time in nature has been linked to reduced physical markers of stress. When we are out for a stroll or just sitting beneath the trees, our heart rate and blood pressure both tend to go down. We also release more natural ‘killer cells’: lymphocytes that roam throughout the body, hunting down cancerous and virus-infected cells. Researchers are still trying to determine why this is so, although they do have a number of hypotheses. “One predominate theory is that natural spaces act as a calming backdrop to the busy stimuli of the city,” says Amber Pearson, a health geographer at Michigan State University. “From an evolutionary perspective, we also associate natural things as key resources for survival, so we favour them.” City residents tend to suffer from more asthma, allergies and depression – but they also tend to be less obese, at a lower suicide risk and are less likely to get killed in an accident

But Stress Is Less in Rural Regions ^thats what I meant Jer also sleep is much deeper with less light pollution and asthma rates are much higher in cities, especially with the trucks that constantly go through the streets. Average longevity is the longest in Colorado I believe.

that would definitely fit the pattern and we would have two cutters to bookend it, the first cutter on the 15th to introduce the thaw and the second one around the 21st to end it.

Chris how long do you think this will last? Through Christmas or through New Years?

Could be another backloaded winter (Jan 20 onwards) OR could be that winter gets going in the last week of December?

I hear you about cities- they're stressful and not healthy. My blood pressure goes down 30 pts and I sleep much better at night when I'm out in the country with no light pollution and fresh air. Flagstaff AZ is supposed to be one of the healthiest cities in America. Densely packing a bunch of humans into a small space isn't healthy for us or for the environment.

yep healthcare is super expensive too. Best healthcare right now would probably be one of those European countries where you dont go bankrupt in the process.

Weird that the winters we are comparing this one to so far are la nina winters like 2000 and 2010 lol.

haha I got the NOAA weather radio around the same time, it was part of a multiband radio that also had the conventional AM/FM stuff. I still have that in a closet somewhere, yours was a few years older than mine, which is from 1995. A great time to get it because the first time I got to use my weather radio was the great winter of 1995-96!

There was basically just the radio if you wanted constant weather updates, so thats what I used. I used to listen to both WCBS and WINS and sometimes WWOR. There was a Long Island radio station with Joe Cioffi on it and he sometimes was on WWOR and he's really good- still comes on WPIX sometimes. The only other thing I know of back then that was devoted to weather were the 15 min segments of AM Weather that were on PBS.

it's weak el nino winters that are the culprit, they tend to be cold and dry. 1977-78 was an exception but only because it was a second year weak el nino and so behaved more like a moderate el nino. Our biggest snowfalls happen in moderate and strong el ninos and also weak la ninas.

I see the East Hampton HTO temps seem to be as cold or even a little colder than the Westhampton FOK temps this season.

The general idea was that the cold would come back around or right after Christmas though. I wont complain if we get a Boxing Day repeat lol.

Two big rainstorms predicted on those days Walt?

I really would have loved to see this (but all snow of course): 4.43"...17.5"...02/04-07/1920...mid 20's to low 30's...snow/ice/sleet for over 72 hours... Where is February 1961 on this list? JFK had like 3" LE and 25" of snow. JFK's number 1 for all snow is January 2016 with 3" LE and 31" of snow. Snow depth reached 30 inches here with that storm. On the above list it's number 2 for all snow, only behind Dec 1947 Intriguing thing the storms at the bottom of your list all had nearly a 20:1 ratio! Jan 2014 near the top of the list for ratios, along with Feb 1899 both are 2" above 20:1 ratios!. 1960....0.86".....15.2" Dec... 2009....0.74".....10.9" Dec... 1899....0.70".....16.0" Feb... 1916....0.59".....12.7" Dec... 1996....0.52".....10.7" Feb... 1905....0.51".....11.0" Jan... 1961....0.50"......9.9" Jan... 2014....0.48".....11.5" Jan...

One after this? There's another flooding rainstorm coming after that one?

It was a great start to the season, and probably the second best December snowstorm we've had (#1 was Boxing Day of course.) I just really love day time snowstorms lol.

Even our big winters with a couple of exceptions like 1995-96 and 2002-03 seem to be mostly concentrated in January-February.

Only real thing to fret about right now is all the money being spent on heating fuel and not getting the benefit of snow to ease the pain lol.

This happened almost every year in the 80s outside of the extreme outliers like April 1982 or February 1983. I remember TV Mets at the time explained it as the NYC metro being in an unfavorable area for snowfall. We're too tucked in to benefit from Miller B's, too far north to benefit from when Arctic air comes down and suppresses the storm track and too far south for clippers lol. So basically at the time they said NYC was in between the predominant storm tracks and that was why back then both DC and Boston were getting more snow than us lol.

I vividly remember that- I wonder what went wrong? The prediction of 6-8 inches of snow was being given by Craig Allen right up to when the storm started, as snow, and then there was a flash of lightning and it changed to rain! The other big bust from that era had occurred the previous winter- 6-8 inches was predicted and we got 6-8 inches of virga in February 1989. It looked like it was going to snow all day and nothing fell.

Question is how long will the thaw last before we get back to a cold and stormy (rather than dry) pattern.

Most of the snow is going to occur in the mountains though, those regions are well-acquainted with snow (like Boone and Asheville). Coastal regions will get nothing.

Ask him about November-December 1989 thats what this reminds me of.

I remember that year as amazingly wet and even if the 80" figure is off, it was definitely above 70"