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I want a storm that’s extra tropical but identifies as a tropical storm

The unusual clockwise dominated MJO rotation that started Sept 1st is continuing and progged to keep going through at least Oct 6th per the images below. So, it went from phase 5 (inside) on 8/31 back to ph 2 9/2-8. It temporarily went forward to ph 3 for 3 days but then backtracked across 2 then 1 and then 8. It’s forecasted to continue backtracking through 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and 8. I just looked at MJO diagrams for the 2nd half of each year back to 1975 and couldn’t find anything comparable:

PD1 was pretty big, there must have been more snowfall than ISP at JFK and some of the other south shore locations.

Forecast called for sunny skies today but it’s nothing but clouds here. What the hell?

Yeah, given how utterly boring the weather has been here in Southern New England, even a tropical storm becoming extratropical over us would be a treat.

I said "snow depth" That mystery hasn't changed. FWIW those daily snowfall totals from ISP in 1979 look reasonable. Here is Syosset comparison for the same period: Syosset ISP 1979 F E B F E B Day 6 0.0 0.0 7 6.3 6.5 8 T 0.3 9 0.0 0.0 10 0.0 0.0 11 0.0 0.0 12 1.5 0.9 13 T T 14 0.0 0.0 15 1.0 T 16 0.2 0.2 17 0.0 0.0 18 0.0 0.0 19 10.1 8.8

The unusual westward MJO propagation continues

we really do not need or want this much flooding rain, 1-2 inches of rain like before is just fine and not days and days of depressing cloudiness either.

I see 2017-2018 is on that list too that was one of our greatest bookend winters.

Islip had some weird snowfall reporting back then, thankfully their snowfall reporting was good for February 1978 (unlike JFK).

I'm intrigued as well. Certainly something to watch, but like you said, all speculation at this point until we get something to really develop. Lots of factors shall influence that these next few days. I just hope nobody is really expecting a cat 3 here I mean extratropical, subtropical, etc. storms can certainly still be noteworthy so don't want to take away from that aspect.

48.7° low this morning.

I remember this happening during an SWFE back in February 2008 and it was a big surprise 6-8 inches of snow -- the changeover happened after the heaviest snow moved away and ended as drizzle. Everything had to be timed just right, the heavy snow came in like a wall at around 2-3 am and it snowed heavily into the morning and ended around 9 am as drizzle. It came in so quickly that it just didn't have a chance to changeover during the meat of the storm.

I’m modestly intrigued. I said in my forecast that if there were an EC threat this year it’d be a shorter fuse wave that develops in the western Atlantic. That lead wave fits the bill. But it’s all just speculation at this point.

Btw…happy 22nd day of fall!

I'll tell you what the "fake cold" is good for though, cooling surfaces down so that when it starts to snow it sticks better. Many times the city will get snow, but we are sitting in the upper 30s waiting for precip to drag our temps down to freezing. Meanwhile several hours earlier some locations were radiating and cooled into the 20s while skies were still clear. That allowed for surfaces to cool down nicely so that even if temps did jump back to the mid 30s when clouds moved in, surfaces are not cooling down from being in the 40s because of solar insolation from earlier in the day, they are warming up from being in the 20s. It makes a nice difference in terms of stickage.

87/81. Yesterday featured very intense rainfall and loud thunder in the early-mid afternoon hours, then after sunset, great lightning show. Today looks to repeat that here in S FL. A vacation marked by extreme humidity and heat indexes over 100. typically lasts from mid-late may thru early october, such is life in the only tropical rainforest climate zone in the mainland USA.

Do not have a great feeling about the ravens game tonight

Mabel or Mildred would be brutal oh, there's a Karen this year. That would be a doozy

I have never been able to unravel the mystery of airport snow-depth reporting.

another in a long line of excellent posts!

Welcome! Also, in non new met news - had a bald eagle cruise past me about head high over by the bridge .7 miles south of Monkton Station on the NCR trail while I was walking my labs this AM. He/she landed on a branch about 30 yards from the bridge hanging over the river. Absolutely awesome in all respects. Breath-taking being that close to one.

Up to 3.85" for the month now (3.53" avg), and that looks to be about it for a while. Another foggy, misty AM. Sun broke out for a while yesterday aftrn before the fog rolled in again. Today, and tomorrow look to be about the same set up before things change. BTW, MRCC has a new website now. Very cool with a lot more tools on deck. https://mrcc.purdue.edu/

OMG that is just glorious!

sun is sloped and tepid, getting more sloped and cooler ... soon 60+ dps will only make the side streets sweat - nothing else of consequence. the reason is because the sun doesn't dump in enough energy to keep both a higher dp air mass afloat, while also providing enough energy to simultaneously elevate the kinetic temperature. granted this is all more so the environmental limitation (at this latitude) by mid oct+ ... but is already more challenging.