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i think at least one asos in the immediate metro breaks 2"

Noon Roundup JFK: 87 EWR: 86 LGA: 86 New Brnswck: 86 BLM: 85 ACY: 85 TEB: 84 PHL: 84 ISP: 82 TTN: 82 NYC: 81

Please bring those “relentless rains” to me. Wash this horrible smoke out of the air and turn things green again.

I do think the designations of a reg FFW and then the emergency alerts going off when you get to considerable or catastrophic is an excellent change. The FFEs as well. People do heed those.

I agree that happens, but then the time you have no watch and all hell breaks loose people wonder why forecasters dropped the ball…or in the most dramatic and tragic of consequences people die. Idk if there’s a particularly great way to do this. I think we also suffer from the bias that we’re weenies here. We track and follow this stuff. For some person that’s completely clueless about wx, a watch may actually be helpful because otherwise they would’ve had no idea if not for the local news mentioning it on their way out of the door or popping up on their dumb (sorry, editorializing lol) weather app.

Even though my basement doesn’t flood anymore I'm hoping we don't see that much especially while I'm not there.

The public has a personal responsibility to maintain a basic level of situational awareness. If they choose to ignore dangerous conditions around them after being warned, then that's on them. We cannot consistently play to the lower common denominator or loudest complainer in the room. Sometimes, you just have to FAFO.

I mean…that is the distinction. But I do appreciate the point that the public struggles with that difference.

Agree, but the basic citizen really can't tell the difference between a Watch and Warning. I've always advocated for a Watch and a "Oh Sh##! It's happening" distinction.

Many are already ignoring the watches because its the boy who cried wolf too often.

Another name coming. LLC starting to develop

Impressive. Even record frozen precip up here often melts off in a few days. Some here act like we used to live in the Arctic up until 2016.

84 / 73 sun been out much more the last hour.

I don't want major flooding, but hoping for some heavy rain today because it's so dry out there. I see the latest HRRR (14z) crushes my area with 5 inches of rain, but we know how HRRR is. It moves around from run to run and is wildly inconsistent. Obviously some spots will get very heavy rain amounts today while others get little to nothing. Who knows.

Just too much water in the atmosphere. Many of our problems would go away if we just had less water vapor lying around.

Thankfully, the storm held off just long enough for yesterday's 72F record high minimum to hold.

thanks mate

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pls someone change the title to 10/30 I can't do it

I just noticed that I’ve been under a couple of these watches and haven’t had much, if any, rain. It is a remarkably humid pattern and I know that when it rains, it can torrent, but think it’s ultimately been more sporadic than a watch should justify. Today seems more ripe.

Agreed.

I was under a flood watch and pretty sure I didn’t receive a drop of rain. I mean, it is what it is lol

We started seeing these very strong ridges over the Pacific Northwest and Northeast in recent years. A general expansion of the subtropical ridges leading record SSTs and land temperatures under these near to record 500mb ridges. So the WPAC has seen one of the more dramatic ridge expansions leading record SSTs in recent years.

Anecdotally, the atmosphere seems thicker and more "vaporous" than it did decades ago. More Venusian might be a good way to describe it. In my hometown, the normal July minima used to be in the 50s, but now reaching the 50s there is like a big achievement in the month of July. Normal lows from decades ago are now seen as a nice break from the heat. Very weird to see in the absence of any UHI increases. All very bizarre.

Wondering if they could create a new category like "isolated flood advisory" which would be for potential of isolated flood warning/ flood emergency events. Save the flood watches for the potential of widespread flood warning events. Otherwise, everyone is going to start ignoring these watches.